***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Ugh, I hope that doesn't happen to me. The county can force him to come in and test? I'm going because my annual cardiologist check up is this week and they make you get a CV-19 test before they'll let you into the hospital.

Why did your friend decide to get the antibody test? He just wanted to know?

Not true at all. Anyone can opt out. The State is testing our building multiple times and people always have the right to opt out.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’m going for my 4th swab on Tuesday.

Only pussies complain.

Mods, please change my username to LandingStrip.

Your 4th swab?? Da fuq?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Not true at all. Anyone can opt out. The State is testing our building multiple times and people always have the right to opt out.

What's not true?

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Who could have predicted that politicizing mask wearing, ignoring social distancing measures, and sticking your head in the sand and pretending a pandemic didn't exist was a bad idea?

What a mess.

It is a stupid mess that could have been/could be handled more seriously, which would have yielded better results. The constant doubling down on the same stupid opinions, because certain people either can't admit they're opinion was wrong or they cant admit that a certain politician was wrong is exhausting.

The icing on the cake is that when one of these dumb mother****ers is proven wrong, they start spouting off some more ignorant ass bullshit and the previous bullshit just disappears.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Mods, please change my username to LandingStrip.

Your 4th swab?? Da fuq?

I work in Healthcare. One positive swab back in May but “undetermined” for antibodies. So can’t prove I had it, so continued testing will follow to find active cases. The state is doing a great job testing IMO. Just need the idiots in this state to take basic precautions.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by vailpass

What's not true?

The county forcing someone to test. It’s not true. There’s always the ability to opt out.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Odd. Why do they want him tested repeatedly if he already has antibodies?

For what it's worth, it's definitely not a statewide thing. I have a friend with a positive antibody test, and she hasn't had to do anything at all. She's in Broomfield, though.

Look at who you are quoting and then look at his dumb ass post history. He's probably making the whole thing up, so he can use it as evidence of some whacky conspiracy theory.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Not true at all. Anyone can opt out. The State is testing our building multiple times and people always have the right to opt out.

Are they wanting to retest people that have already tested positive for the antibody?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’m going for my 4th swab on Tuesday.

Only pussies complain.

And people who horde tests are selfish, arrogant, ****s that think they are more important than everyone else..


See what I did there?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I work in Healthcare. One positive swab back in May but “undetermined” for antibodies. So can’t prove I had it, so continued testing will follow to find active cases. The state is doing a great job testing IMO. Just need the idiots in this state to take basic precautions.

Good to hear. Seems like we lagged way behind at first but are now catching up quick.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by lewdog

The county forcing someone to test. It’s not true. There’s always the ability to opt out.

Ah, sorry for not being clear. It's Mayo clinic that is requiring the test, not county. If I want to go to my annual cardiologist appointment on Tuesday I have to show up for swabbing in the parking lot on Sunday.
And I completely get it. I also get why any hospital would require a test before letting someone contaminate the whole damn thing.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And people who horde tests are selfish, arrogant, ****s that think they are more important than everyone else..


See what I did there?

Made up an argument so that you could feel like you added something of value to the conversation?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Good to hear.

I've had the "brain poke" test done. It's really not all that bad. Prepare for your eyes to water and for your nose to feel like you got water in it while you were swimming. That's about it.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by TLO

I've had the "brain poke" test done. It's really not all that bad. Prepare for your eyes to water and for your nose to feel like you got water in it while you were swimming. That's about it.

Thanks. Can I text you while I'm waiting in line?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Made up an argument so that you could feel like you added something of value to the conversation?

I'm ****ing with him so just shove the stick up your ass a little further already.....