***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...xtended-323216

If you are referring to non-legally participating migrant guest workers, then okay.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No. But to reduce mortality by 1/3, no one would need to be treated with corticosteroids in the ICU prior to this. Given that they are commonly used, although less so in certain cases applicable to COVID, don't expect a full 1/3 decrease in mortality like some were claiming

I don’t know how you do it, continually and patiently demystifying the obvious for someone clearly being impertinent.

[WhawhaWhat]

UPDATED INFO | Gov. Ron DeSantis said 260 workers at the Orlando International Airport have tested positive for the coronavirus after nearly 500 employees were tested. https://t.co/tfiAN6MRtx

— News 6 WKMG (@news6wkmg) June 17, 2020

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

UPDATED INFO | Gov. Ron DeSantis said 260 workers at the Orlando International Airport have tested positive for the coronavirus after nearly 500 employees were tested. https://t.co/tfiAN6MRtx

— News 6 WKMG (@news6wkmg) June 17, 2020

After Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis claimed Tuesday that contact tracing revealed hundreds of cases of COVID-19 at a Central Florida airport, airport officials are telling WESH 2 News a different story.

A representative with Orlando International Airport said 500 workers at OIA were tested last week out of an abundance of caution and only two of those came back positive.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Since you went there, I can't help but wonder if the reason for the spikes in AZ and Texas is their proximity to the border...ifyouknowwhatImean....

The governor of Texas basically came out the last couple days and blamed young people, mostly people under 30, saying they aren't taking it seriously, bar-hopping, etc, etc.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by tk13

The governor of Texas basically came out the last couple days and blamed young people, mostly people under 30, saying they aren't taking it seriously, bar-hopping, etc, etc.

Lets blame people that generally don't vote, good strategy.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Lets blame people that generally don't vote, good strategy.

WTF does that have to do with anything? Let me add this to the list of things:

To get Covid:

Go to bar (unless you don't vote)
Go to restaurant (unless you don't vote)
Go to haircut
Go to funeral
Go to school
Go to pool
Go to baseball game
Go to football game
Go to basketball game
Go to political rally


To avoid Covid:

Go to Home Depot
Go to Wal-Mart
Go to grocery store
Go to pharmacy
Go to protest and riot (rioting is key)
Don't vote

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

WTF does that have to do with anything? Let me add this to the list of things:

To get Covid:

Go to bar
Go to restaurant
Go to haircut
Go to funeral
Go to school
Go to pool
Go to baseball game
Go to football game
Go to basketball game
Go to political rally


To avoid Covid:

Go to Home Depot
Go to Wal-Mart
Go to grocery store
Go to pharmacy
Go to protest and riot (rioting is key)
Register to vote

He blamed an age group that generally doesn't vote in an election year...there is obviously no motive in that.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He blamed an age group that generally doesn't vote in an election year...there is obviously no motive in that.

Really? Presidential elections have the higher turnout and they don't vote? I didn't see your whining about this when Cuomo blamed people in Manhattan and The Hamptons for paling around and bars and restaurants last weekend?

Either way what is he saying that would be wrong?

[Donger]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronav...00-11592306919

Nursing homes and other senior-care facilities have started to allow more visits after a monthslong lockdown to protect vulnerable residents from coronavirus infections, even as the pandemic’s death toll tied to such places surpasses 50,000.

A Wall Street Journal tally of state data compiling fatalities from Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, underscores the virus’s heavy cost to those living in long-term-care facilities. Deaths among senior-care center staff and residents appear to represent at least 40% of the overall count of more than 116,000 U.S. fatalities related to Covid-19 as compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

[Donger]

New Beijing outbreak raises virus fears for rest of world

https://apnews.com/54374ff841dfd84323a1fb86d1e93180

BEIJING (AP) — China raised its emergency warning to its second-highest level and canceled more than 60% of the flights to Beijing on Wednesday amid a new coronavirus outbreak in the capital. It was a sharp pullback for the nation that declared victory over COVID-19 in March and a message to the rest of the world about how tenacious the virus really is.

New infections spiked in India, Iran and U.S. states including Florida, Texas and Arizona as authorities struggled to balance restarting economic activity without accelerating the pandemic.

European nations, which embarked on a wide-scale reopening this week, looked on with trepidation as the Americas struggled to contain the first wave of the pandemic and Asian nations like China and South Korea reported new outbreaks.

Chinese officials described the situation in Beijing as “extremely grave.”

“This has truly rung an alarm bell for us,” Party Secretary Cai Qi told a meeting of Beijing’s Communist Party Standing Committee.

After a push that began June 14, the city expects to have tested 700,000 people by the end of the day, said Zhang Qiang, a Beijing party official. About half of them were workers from the city’s food markets, nearby residents and close contacts.

The party’s Global Times said 1,255 flights to and from the capital’s two major airports were scrapped by Wednesday morning, about two-thirds of those scheduled.

Since the virus emerged in China late last year and spread worldwide, there have been more than 8.1 million confirmed cases and at least 443,000 deaths, according to a tally kept by Johns Hopkins University. Experts say the true toll is much higher, due to the many who died without being tested and other factors.

[Donger]

And:

Not long after declaring itself virus-free, New Zealand saw a reemergence of the virus. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern assigned a top military leader to oversee the border quarantines after what she described as an “unacceptable failure” by health officials.

Two New Zealand citizens who had returned from London to see a dying relative were allowed to leave quarantine before being tested. After the women tested positive, New Zealand began tracing their potential contacts to ensure the virus is contained.

[Kiimo]

In case you are all wondering how we're stacking up

The population of the US is 330 million
The population of the EU is 446 million

[source https://t.co/JtQgQFMvj9] pic.twitter.com/DAVWfkIW15

— Max Roser (@MaxCRoser) June 16, 2020

Not well

[Donger]

The number of people sickened with Covid-19 across Texas’ hospitals hit a new high Wednesday, surging about 11% in a single day.

There are 2,793 patients hospitalized with a coronavirus infection in the state, up from 2,518 patients reported Tuesday, according to updated data from the Texas Department of State Health Services. The total Wednesday marks the eighth new high in the state in less than two weeks. Texas coronavirus hospitalizations are now up more than 84% since Memorial Day as the state continues to reopen.

[O.city]

Wonder if the increase in testing is allowing more mild and such cases to be found which is increasing the number of positives but allowing the death numbers to stay falling?