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09-11-2020, 10:46 AM | #3451 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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Put a good gas recoil system on there and the energy is redirected into cycling the bolt. So that's why I'm looking at the BAR - it is, to my eyes, the best auto-loading hunting/sporting rifle on the market (and pretty much always has been). I think simply getting away from the bolt action will help a lot and ultimately I think the round itself may just come down to price/availability. I can't find a meaningful enough difference, to be honest. And the 30-06 is damn near available in grocery stores in Missouri. You can find it in any wal-mart you go to. They're just so easy to get your hands on. |
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09-11-2020, 10:50 AM | #3452 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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Additionally, because of the trees/hills, you often have to put yourself into some really strange shooting angles. I have a nice little 'scope bite' scar right above my right eye because I had to cock myself around a branch and really work into a space to get a shot on one a several years ago before he got behind the tree line. I mean he came out worse for it, but the scope definitely left a mark. I think it's just kinda the wrong gun for this region. Get me out further west where I'm looking at needing to hike into a range and hit something 300+ yards out and I'll probably be glad to have it. At that point all its benefits come into play and its drawbacks can be avoided. But for most of my hunting I just don't need that pile-driver of a round and would sure like to not leave any more permanent marks on my face because of it. |
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09-11-2020, 10:53 AM | #3453 | |
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
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Couple years ago I bought an AR15 and couldn't believe how little kick there was. And it's light with a pretty short barrel. But as far as ballistics, you'll have to go with what Mac said, he's far more knowledgeable than I am. BTW, Congrats on your upcoming gun purchase |
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09-11-2020, 10:56 AM | #3454 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Olathe
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First time my Son shot the Mauser - he suffered the same fate with the scope.I tried to tell him - but, according to him, I'm an old man who doesn't know much He listens intently to me now......... |
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09-11-2020, 11:16 AM | #3455 | |
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Location: Columbia, Mo
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You hunt the same ground long enough and you start to look for more challenging shots that are still 'ethical' and not just hucking lead downrange. That was one of 'em. It had an acceptable degree of difficulty to it and a little more range than normal. I knew it would probably leave a mark but there just wasn't much else I could do about it. Actually had to finish him off w/ the sidearm. He ran when I hit him about mid-body but got himself hung up in some undergrowth. I stayed in the tree a bit to give him time to lay down but he just didn't do it so I climbed down and started walking that way. I got close to him and realized he'd gotten hung up and was just kinda waiting to die so I pulled the 40 I keep with me in case a raccoon or a coyote shows up and finished the job. Was pretty pleased with the shot considering the angle and the range, but it wasn't exactly a perfect one. |
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09-11-2020, 11:29 AM | #3456 | |
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09-11-2020, 01:16 PM | #3457 | |
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
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But hell, come out here, you can take as long a shot as you want. I've got a half mile runway that's flat as you can imagine, and I think notorious built his own range which goes out a ways. 1000 yards maybe? I'm not hitting shit at a half mile, but some guys around can. |
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09-11-2020, 01:33 PM | #3458 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Missouri
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Here is something else you can throw on the rifle that helps. Have one on my .270 and it makes it feel like you are shooting an AR, barely any recoil felt. https://limbsaver.com/pages/recoil-pads-showcase |
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09-11-2020, 01:44 PM | #3459 | |
It's Five O'Clock Somewhere
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Billings, Montana
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Yeah I love the 7mm as well. I also love my .300 Ultramag. Flat shooting with a ton of knockdown to it. The thing I don't like about the .300, is that fact that it makes the 7mm feel like a .22 in the kick department. If I burn 20 though that gun, my shoulder feels like it's been through a meat grinder. |
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09-11-2020, 02:17 PM | #3460 |
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Colorado
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For Missouri hunting and looking at less recoil it would be really hard to find anything outperforming a 243 or a 260. As said earlier it's hard to shoot farther than 200 yards there. Come out to CO or Montana and you want something flatter. I carry a 264 win mag. It'll shoot farther than I can. As I have gotten older I've discovered that recoil isn't that enjoyable to me and my days of a 300 Weatherby are gone and if I need a bigger bullet my 325 short mag or 35 Whelen are up to the task. Right tool for the right job.
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09-12-2020, 11:21 AM | #3461 |
It was not a fair catch
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Correcting papers
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In my handgun class. Going to shoot way cool
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09-12-2020, 01:07 PM | #3462 |
It was not a fair catch
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Correcting papers
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It was cool. Lots of people. Place is packed. Did well aiming and hitting. We can purchase a gun and not need a carry permit if we never take it off my own property.
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09-12-2020, 01:29 PM | #3463 | |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Olathe
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It works quite well for me, I am always armed anytime I leave the house. It's nothing for me really, I carried concealed for nearly the entire time I was in the Army - some 22 years. To me it has always been - Forewarned is Forearmed. Congratulations on your journey!! |
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09-12-2020, 02:47 PM | #3464 |
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09-12-2020, 06:17 PM | #3465 |
It was not a fair catch
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Correcting papers
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I liked the Sig Sauer.. Not sure of the model. 9mm.
Definitely not a revolver. Had a lot of kick, long trigger the way I had it set up. Really loud too. I need to get in and try a few more. All kinds of people today. If I can get one, not need a permit to have it on my property. That is a no brainer. It is an investment. Then, If I go to the farm. I can take it there and have it if needed. He helped me with the right hand, left eye dominant thing. It went well. And I was able to see the sight well enough since my arms were stretched. Good times. |
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