***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You keep talking about cases, most of which are old, because you don’t want to touch on what really matters.

Hospitalizations and deaths.

You don't get hospitalizations or deaths if you don't have cases. As I just showed you, you got two new ones recently.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by notorious

That big void in Western Kansas that divides Bronco fan from Chief fan.

Ah.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by staylor26

We don’t say everybody that has unprotected sex is a murdering asshole that’s possibly spreading AIDS.

Under the criminal law, a person with any STD including HIV is criminally liable for prosecution if they have intentionally transmitted the virus to their partner without informing them of their status.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

You don't get hospitalizations or deaths if you don't have cases. As I just showed you, you got two new ones recently.

We haven’t had hospitalizations or deaths for weeks, but we’ve had cases.

What’s your point?

How’s people not dying or being hospitalized not great moron?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Under the criminal law, a person with any STD including HIV is criminally liable for prosecution if they have intentionally transmitted the virus to their partner without informing them of their status.

Thanks for informing me of something completely irrelevant to my point that I’m already aware of.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

We haven’t had hospitalizations or deaths for weeks, but we’ve had cases.

What’s your point?

How’s people not dying or being hospitalized not great moron?

I need to do it again? Okay:

You claimed that it was pretty much non-existent.

You're welcome. QED.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

I need to do it again? Okay:

You claimed that it was pretty much non-existent.

You're welcome. QED.

“Pretty much”

Meaning not exactly 0. 2 is pretty ****ing close to 0 and fits under “pretty much”.

****ing moron.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by notorious

160 per 100k?



I am surrounded by 3 counties that have over 4000 per 100k. Yes, that's 4 people per 100.

No, the hospitals are not overwhelmed and there are not bodies piled up in trucks. Stores are open, just use common sense.

As of a couple of days ago (I haven't checked it recently), KCMO was holding fast at 16 C-19 attributable deaths, and of those 16 deaths 14 of them were people 60 or older. In the time since the SIP order had come down, KCMO has had more homicides than COVID deaths.

[staylor26]

How is 0.00008% of the population not “pretty much non-existent”.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Thanks for informing me of something completely irrelevant to my point that I’m already aware of.

Its not irrelevant. While not "murder", knowingly exposing someone to a disease (STD) makes you a criminal.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Bowser

As of a couple of days ago (I haven't checked it recently), KCMO was holding fast at 16 C-19 attributable deaths, and of those 16 deaths 14 of them were people 60 or older. In the time since the SIP order had come down, KCMO has had more homicides than COVID deaths.

3,794 confirmed out here with.......drum roll........15 deaths

We are rolling with a .003% death rate. It's horrifying.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by sedated

Its not irrelevant. While not "murder", knowingly exposing someone to a disease (STD) makes you a criminal.

I said nothing about knowingly.

I said anybody that has unprotected sex. Of course we shame people who have STD’s and knowingly have unprotected sex, hence why it’s irrelevant and wasn’t what I was referring to.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by notorious

3,794 confirmed out here with.......drum roll........15 deaths

We are rolling with a .003% death rate. It's horrifying.

And all 15 are because of assholes who just wanted to go to the gym!

[Donger]

Originally Posted by notorious

3,794 confirmed out here with.......drum roll........15 deaths

We are rolling with a .003% death rate. It's horrifying.

Your math is horrifying.

[jdubya]

Hearing more rage cases these days. One friend of mine was at a market the other day and a guy in his late 20`s standing behind him suddenly went into a rage about how the elderly lady cashier was not wiping the conveyor belt after each item she scanned. My buddy started to call the cops but the guy ended up calling everybody assholes and ran out of the store.

Another neighbor friend of mine was walking a nature trail yesterday. He said it was a dozer trail bladed about 12' to 15' wide. He wasnt wearing a mask but there was plenty of room to steer well clear of folks if wanted. Anyway he said he was approached by a guy wearing a mask who started screaming at him at the top of his voice because he wasnt wearing a mask. My neighbor said it very nearly went to blows. Crazy times folks.