***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Lucky you. If I lived in Key West I wouldn't give a **** either

It’s truly a blessing during this time.

We’re going in the bait every day down here

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That’s in all of Monroe county (where the population is 70,000), not just Key West.

Yes. Key West has 40 of them, it seems.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes. Key West has 40 of them, it seems.

And they’re just about all mild or asymptomatic. The hospital is empty.

This is after a late lock down when we had cruise ships coming in every other day and tourists were here.

I admit it’s probably screwed with my perception in both a good way and a bad way.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

And they’re just about all mild or asymptomatic. The hospital is empty.

You claimed that it was pretty much non-existent. 160 cases per 100,000 actually is relatively high.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

You claimed that it was pretty much non-existent. 160 cases per 100,000 actually is relatively high.

I’m pretty sure most of those cases aren’t new.

We haven’t heard of new cases in weeks down here. The hospitals are empty. I live down here and you want to argue with me when you have no ****ing clue

[Donger]

May 23:The number of cases of COVID-19 in Monroe County jumped to 107 today (from 101 yesterday). The FDOH report shows six new cases, two new cases in Key West, one non-Florida resident and three are classified as “missing city”. The non-Florida resident is a 24-year-old man who had recently travelled elsewhere in Florida and in Minnesota; it is presumed that he became infected outside the Keys.

[staylor26]

Two new cases one of which isn’t a resident. In other words new cases have been “pretty much become non-existent”.

3 people in all of Monroe County have died, and I know at least 2 of which had serious underlying conditions. The first 2 deaths were over a month ago.

We’ve had 1 death in 6 weeks (came in the very early part) and currently have 2 new cases.

Are you seriously trying to act like things aren’t great down here?

[notorious]

160 per 100k?



I am surrounded by 3 counties that have over 4000 per 100k. Yes, that's 4 people per 100.

No, the hospitals are not overwhelmed and there are not bodies piled up in trucks. Stores are open, just use common sense.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Two new cases on of which it’s a resident. In other word new cases have been “pretty much become non-existent”.

3 people in all of Monroe County have died, and I know at least 2 of which had serious underlying conditions. The first 2 deaths were over a month ago.

We’ve had 1 death in 6 weeks (came in the very early part) and currently have 2 new cases.

Are you seriously trying to act like things aren’t great down here?

As I said, 160 cases per 100,000 is relatively high. But I'm glad that you think it's going great.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by notorious

160 per 100k?



I am surrounded by 3 counties that have over 4000 per 100k. Yes, that's 4 people per 100.

No, the hospitals are not overwhelmed and there are not bodies piled up in trucks. Stores are open, just use common sense.

Yikes. Where do you live (so I can avoid it...)?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by notorious

160 per 100k?



I am surrounded by 3 counties that have over 4000 per 100k. Yes, that's 4 people per 100.

He’s seriously trying to fear monger when we’ve had 3 people die, 2 of which I know for sure had VERY serious health issues already.

Those deaths came several weeks ago.

There are 2 new cases.

If you could possibly be worried or concerned down here, you’re a ****ing pussy that should stay inside for the rest of your life.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

He’s seriously trying to fear monger when we’ve had 3 people die, 2 of which I know for sure had VERY serious health issues already.

Those deaths came several weeks ago.

There are 2 new cases.

If you could possibly be worried or concerned down here, you’re a ****ing pussy that should stay inside for the rest of your life.

I'm just giving you the numbers. Do with them what you will.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by notorious

160 per 100k?



I am surrounded by 3 counties that have over 4000 per 100k. Yes, that's 4 people per 100.

No, the hospitals are not overwhelmed and there are not bodies piled up in trucks. Stores are open, just use common sense.

Wait, someone is saying 160 per 100k is high or something? Isn't that like a .01% infection rate?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

As I said, 160 cases per 100,000 is relatively high. But I'm glad that you think it's going great.

You keep talking about cases, most of which are old, because you don’t want to touch on what really matters.

Hospitalizations and deaths.

Nobody is dying and nobody is in the hospital. That’s ****ing great moron.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yikes. Where do you live (so I can avoid it...)?

That big void in Western Kansas that divides Bronco fan from Chief fan.