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05-24-2020, 12:56 PM | #33137 | |
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We don't refuse to give drugs to people because 1/10,000 will have an allergic reaction, we analyze whether the therapy will do more good than harm. Cops pull cars over without taillights all the time because, in theory, they're a risk to themselves and other drivers. Doing so won't prevent all accidents, but the thought is to limit them. Seat belts sometimes kill people who would have otherwise survived accidents, but it doesn't mean they don't save lives on the balance. Sealing fuel tanks and mandating air bags don't save everyone, but they do save a lot of people. You'll never get the number down to zero, but you can lower it through interventions that are low consequence. I can tell you firsthand I've experienced other interventions that are a hell of a lot more unpleasant than that. I don't particularly enjoy having poison pumped into my jugular vein every other week for three hours--I'm exhausted afterwards, my ribs and sternum ache for days, it literally hurts just to sit down, my esophageal tract is filled with sores, but I do it because the reward is worth the short-term suffering, and it's a hell of a lot more unpleasant than some of these impossibly minor sacrifices others refuse to make. Do you have any idea how much ****ing money a pharmaceutical company would make if they could reduce the infectiousness of this disease by half? Gilead is going to make billions on remdesivir when it only reduces hospitalization time by 1/3. Pharma companies made tens of billions of dollars on statins which increase quality of life years by 3 months for the average user. Three months. Yet here's the thing: we already have such a treatment, and it costs pennies: wear a mask and don't gather in large groups. The same people who will bitch endlessly about using hydroxychloroquine as prophylaxis when there is no evidence and very well known side effects refuse to put on a surgical or cloth mask that costs a few cents or dollars. That is such a small ask. |
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05-24-2020, 12:57 PM | #33138 |
sorta mod-ish
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05-24-2020, 12:59 PM | #33139 |
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Minimize infections, to minimize the chance of hospital overruns, to minimize deaths.
“If you look at the curves of outbreaks, you know, they go up big peaks, and then they come down. What we need to do is flatten that down,” he has said publicly. “That would have less people infected. That would, ultimately, have less deaths.” |
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05-24-2020, 01:00 PM | #33140 |
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Hamas I didn’t say anything about not wearing a mask or hanging out in large groups.
Like I’ve said, I’m in the middle here. I’m willing to be reasonable. This all started because PA thinks anybody that did their part in flattening the curve and now wants to move on with their lives (gym, haircut, etc.) within reasonable social distancing measures is a POS. |
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05-24-2020, 01:02 PM | #33141 | |
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05-24-2020, 01:03 PM | #33142 |
Please squeeze
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05-24-2020, 01:03 PM | #33143 | |
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05-24-2020, 01:04 PM | #33144 |
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05-24-2020, 01:05 PM | #33145 | |
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05-24-2020, 01:06 PM | #33146 |
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05-24-2020, 01:08 PM | #33147 |
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05-24-2020, 01:09 PM | #33148 | |
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He will still argue with you but here.....
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05-24-2020, 01:09 PM | #33149 |
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