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Old 09-12-2014, 03:17 PM  
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Adrian Peterson Indicted

Reckless/negligent injury to a child. Indicted.

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Old 09-12-2014, 07:30 PM   #316
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That's your opinion.
There's a correlation between the country going down the shitter and fewer people not beating their kids with switches?

There's also a correlation between the country going down the shitter and fewer Americans smoking cigarettes.

You're the one who needs more evidence to back up your claim, not me.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:30 PM   #317
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:31 PM   #318
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No, it's because fewer parents give a shit, buddy
I'd like to know where beating your child until they bleed is synonymous with being a caring parent.

And you reactionary ****s wonder how 18-year-old girls end up with creepy 57-year-olds.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:32 PM   #319
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Dialogue and patience are your friend. I'm a 22 year old who basically brought up my 12 year old brother. What I learned was if you're persistent enough at some point your message will eventually break through. It's kind of similar to not giving into a terrorists demands- you have to be adamant like a rock, let them know resistance is futile, especially in the first couple years. Later when my bro was capable of conversing, I would actually sit him down and explain to him what he was doing was wrong and possible consequences for his actions. As flavorless as all of this sounds it worked out fine for me.
Disagree. Maybe in your situation. But noy all situations are the same
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:33 PM   #320
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I grew up in the hood. I've said it and I wasn't playing. And I'm hard. Not talking about my cock unless my wife is there. But I would bet everything I'm the hardest mother****er around. And probably the nicest guy too
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Why are you hijacking the thread to tell everyone what a badass you are
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:34 PM   #321
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I'd like to know where beating your child until they bleed is synonymous with being a caring parent.

And you reactionary ****s wonder how 18-year-old girls end up with creepy 57-year-olds.
Spanking your child isn't synonymous with them being with 57 year old
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:35 PM   #322
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Why are you hijacking the thread to tell everyone what a badass you are
Because I am? Real sorry guy. Ill stop more.

But I really am. Ask the guys I grew up with.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:36 PM   #323
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Spanking your child isn't synonymous with them being with 57 year old
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Spanking is a lot of things, but it's certainly not using a switch, stuffing a kid's mouth with leaves, punching them in the face, or making them fear retribution for telling what happened to them.

My problem isn't with spankings, but with stupid mother****ers like ptylon who think that discipline like this, or a lack of physical discipline, period, is the reason why the country is supposedly "****ed up."
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:36 PM   #324
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Resorting to violence generally means you've lost complete control of a situation. So if you resort to beating your kids as a parenting tool, chances are you had no business being a parent in the first place.
Big difference between a good ole spanking and beating your kids. Anymore than a spanking, you are just instilling fear in them instead of respect.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:37 PM   #325
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What the **** is wrong with some of you guys?


Spank?

Not a bad thing.

Whip with a branch until a 4 year old is bleeding from cuts everywhere?

**** you pieces of shit.

I am losing faith in people.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:40 PM   #326
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I haven't read the whole thread but have read many post of yours claiming that research states corporal punishment doesn't work. From a psychology major and in the social service field. I can tell you that you are wrong. Negative reinforcement works just as well as positive reinforcements. You can read that in any behavior pyschology book. Not taking a stand whether its right or wrong. Personally I don't think you should ever hit a child in anger. But that doesn't mean corporal punishment can't be used as an effective tool to change behavior.
I see the value in some corporal punishment when children are very young and don't have the cognitive ability to differentiate, but by the time children are in school, I don't think it's an appropriate disciplinary tool.

Parental Physical Discipline Through Childhood Linked To Behavior Problems In Teens

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0915100953.htm

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September 16, 2009
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Using data collected in two longitudinal studies, researchers found that parents typically adjust the way they discipline their children in response to their children's cognitive abilities, using less physical discipline (spanking, slapping, hitting with an object) over time. Researchers also found that when parents' use of physical discipline continues through childhood, by the time their children are teens, they're more likely to have behavior problems.

Using data collected in two longitudinal studies, researchers found that parents typically adjust the way they discipline their children in response to their children's cognitive abilities, using less physical discipline (spanking, slapping, hitting with an object) over time. Researchers also found that when parents' use of physical discipline continues through childhood, by the time their children are teens, they're more likely to have behavior problems.


Two new studies explore how discipline changes during childhood and adolescence, and what family factors affect those changes. They conclude that when parents use physical discipline through childhood, their children experience more behavior problems in adolescence.

The studies were conducted by researchers at Duke University, Oklahoma State University, the University of Pittsburgh, Auburn University, and Indiana University. They appear in the September/October 2009 issue of Child Development.

Using data collected in two longitudinal studies—one of almost 500 children who were followed from ages 5 to 16, the other of more than 250 children followed from ages 5 to 15—the researchers sought to answer questions of how discipline changes during childhood and adolescence, and whether there are factors within families and children that are associated with these changes.

They find that parents typically adjust the way they discipline their children in response to their children's growing cognitive abilities, using less physical discipline (spanking, slapping, hitting with an object) over time. As children grow older, physical discipline becomes less developmentally appropriate. However, when parents' use of physical discipline continues through childhood, by the time their children are teens, they're more likely to have behavior problems. Teens of parents who stop using physical discipline when their children are young are less likely to have these behavior problems.
"Given these findings, mental health specialists and others who work with families should encourage parents to refrain from using physical discipline," according to Jennifer E. Lansford, associate research professor with the Social Science Research Institute and Center for Child and Family Policy at Duke University, who led the study. "They should also help parents—especially mothers who are at high risk of using harsh physical discipline because they have children whose behavior is challenging or they are dealing with a lot of stress in their environment—come up with alternate strategies for disciplining their children."

"Low income, low educational attainment, single parenthood, family stress, and living in a dangerous neighborhood form a constellation of risk that increases the chances that parents will continue to use physical discipline with their children," Lansford adds. "Parents are also more likely to continue using physical discipline with children who behave aggressively."
The research was funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, and the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:43 PM   #327
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It saddens me that they had to do a study to prove the obvious to the oblivious.
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:45 PM   #328
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I haven't read the whole thread but have read many post of yours claiming that research states corporal punishment doesn't work. From a psychology major and in the social service field. I can tell you that you are wrong. Negative reinforcement works just as well as positive reinforcements. You can read that in any behavior pyschology book. Not taking a stand whether its right or wrong. Personally I don't think you should ever hit a child in anger. But that doesn't mean corporal punishment can't be used as an effective tool to change behavior.
I don't recall ever saying negative reinforcements don't work. What I said was there are better and far less harmful negative reinforcements than beating your kid with a stick or slapping their ass like you're in a spanking fetish porno.

Assuming we both have the same definition of negative reinforcement, removing something to achieve a favorable outcome for another person, why not take a child's dessert away instead of harming them physically?

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Old 09-12-2014, 07:46 PM   #329
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Old 09-12-2014, 07:47 PM   #330
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