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Old 07-30-2018, 12:14 PM   #2
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Old 07-30-2018, 12:25 PM   #3
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Wonder what the insurance rates for duck boats will be when this is all said and done?
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:05 PM   #4
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9 Members of Same Family Among 17 Killed in Duck Boat Accident
Companies use 1851 law to deny liability in duck boat tragedy that killed 17
Oct 16, 2018
By Mark Alesia, Indianapolis Star
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INDIANAPOLIS — The Indiana woman who lost nine family members in the sinking of a duck boat in Missouri over the summer expressed outrage at a court filing Monday by two companies facing multiple lawsuits in the tragedy.

The companies, Branson Duck Vehicles and Ripley Entertainment, cited an 1851 maritime law to limit or eliminate liability for the tragedy that killed 17 people in July, according to Tia Coleman's lawyers.

» 'I thought I was dead': Branson duck boat passenger who lost 9 family members shares story

In a filing in federal court in Missouri, the defendants denied negligence in the sinking of the boat. But the filing said that if a court does find negligence, their liability is zero. That's because "the Vessel was a total loss and has no current value. No freight was pending on the Vessel."

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Wow. ****ing wow. There is a special place in hell for lawyers like the ones behind this "defense".
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:39 AM   #5
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Wow. ****ing wow. There is a special place in hell for lawyers.
Could've stopped there.
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Old 10-18-2018, 06:29 AM   #6
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Wow. ****ing wow. There is a special place in hell for lawyers like the ones behind this "defense".
Dude, lawyers just argue the law. Sometimes laws have terrible, unconscionable results. At which point the blame lies on lawmakers.

“Lawyers hold this opinion because an 1851 law, the Shipowner's Limitation of Liability Act, often caps damages to no more money than the salvage value of the sunken vessel.”

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Old 11-08-2018, 12:30 PM   #7
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Wow. ****ing wow. There is a special place in hell for lawyers like the ones behind this "defense".
They have a good chance to win with that. Our company ships cargo and carriers use that all the time in courts to pay zero or very little.
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:49 PM   #8
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They have a good chance to win with that. Our company ships cargo and carriers use that all the time in courts to pay zero or very little.
When the cargo on the boat is non sentient goods and the only people affected are employees... then I'm all about the law being applied. Not so much when the cargo is 100% human life. *shrugs*

I'll be extremely interested to see if the courts in Missouri allow/buy that defense.
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:02 PM   #9
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I'll be extremely underrated to see in the courts in Missouri allow/buy that defense.
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:17 PM   #10
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:37 PM   #11
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Wow. ****ing wow. There is a special place in hell for lawyers like the ones behind this "defense".
It is not the lawyers fault that that law is still on the books.
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Old 10-18-2018, 06:34 AM   #12
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except for that defense is thrown out after they find the negligence of the company is what resulted in that accident.
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except for that defense is thrown out after they find the negligence of the company is what resulted in that accident.
Probably.

I was just explaining why that defense was used in their answer.
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Probably.

I was just explaining why that defense was used in their answer.
oh yeah, i wasn't calling you out on it. my bad
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