***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Have you always wore a mask or just with this particular virus about?

Has there ever been in our lifetimes a pandemic of this scale where wearing a mask was the recommended action?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

i must have missed where you talked about how your eyes and ears breathe...

I don't know how long ago it was when you took basic biology but...


When you swallow or yawn, the tubes open briefly to let air in to make the pressure in the middle ears equal to the pressure outside of the ears. Sometimes fluid or negative pressure gets stuck in the middle ear.

Now, have they proved you can get Covid through the ears? I don't know if they have or haven't. But you can get get viruses through your ears, especially children.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, what's worrisome is why you are so concerned about my manhood? Got something you wish to share with everyone, Donger?

Concern? I think it's funny.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That negates not the fact that there are side effects. Don't worry, you'll be doing your mask laundry for years and years to come. Maybe they'll come out with an All-Temper-Cheer for masks??? No fading!!!!

They still offer protection used properly , are you saying you are incapable of using one properly?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Has there ever been in our lifetimes a pandemic of this scale where wearing a mask was the recommended action?

So you're doing it because you're told too. I get it. Because we have had more children die from the flu this year than ever and I don't recall anyone talking about wearing masks to keep them from getting infected.

I guess the cutoff is what, 16k-20k per year before we wear the masks?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

They still offer protection used properly , are you saying you are incapable of using one properly?

Most people don't. You know it. I know it. Every ****ing medical professional knows it and many have said just that. Let's not play this game.

[Mecca]

Are you like, just being argumentative?

[Donger]

New York (CNN Business)AstraZeneca's CEO says the US government's $1 billion investment in its coronavirus vaccine is a gamble -- but worth the risk.

Pascal Soriot, the drugmaker's chief executive, said the investment showed the US government is "leading for the American people but also the world."

AstraZeneca (AZN) is working with Oxford University to develop a vaccine, with first deliveries potentially starting in September. The $1 billion investment was announced Thursday.

"We will start getting substantial doses by September-October, and I would say about 30% of our deliveries will take place starting in September-October and the balance will arrive by December or January so a very short timeline if you will. Lots and lots of people will be able to be vaccinated before the end of the year," Soriot told CNN's Julia Chatterley on "First Move."

Soriot did say it is not guaranteed the vaccine will work but said they are confident and that there is good reason for it to work.

"We're trailblazing here because we are not following the standard process, we are partnering with regulators both in the UK and the US, we're working hand in hand with the FDA, we are sharing data on a day to day basis and they have committed themselves to help look at our data as they come so by the time we finish the first [trial] program in August they can rapidly approve the vaccine," said Soriot.

When asked whether he is worried that there hasn't been enough time devoted to challenge the virus to make something that will definitely work, Soriot said, "We are not cutting corners."

"We are moving fast because of this partnership with regulators and the Oxford group and ourselves," he said. "It's a completely standard program, it is just happens that it is done very quickly."

Soriot said drug companies are competing against the virus and not against each other, saying AstraZeneca is doing this for no profit and other manufacturers will do the same.

"We need several vaccines. One vaccine will not be enough. We are all trying to do the same thing which is bring a solution to this terrible pandemic," he said.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Again we are back to how long must I fear that I am or might be asymptomatic? There is no answer to that.

I would feel like shit if i was the reason my somebody i know got hospitalized but that is just me i guess.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Because we have had more children die from the flu this year than ever

Wrong.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

It is more a side effect of being stupid , or ignoring instructions given by medical professionals.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't know how long ago it was when you took basic biology but...


When you swallow or yawn, the tubes open briefly to let air in to make the pressure in the middle ears equal to the pressure outside of the ears. Sometimes fluid or negative pressure gets stuck in the middle ear.

Now, have they proved you can get Covid through the ears? I don't know if they have or haven't. But you can get get viruses through your ears, especially children.

once again they arent sucking air in like your lungs...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Are you like, just being argumentative?

Yes but I am just having some fun.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

once again they arent sucking air in like your lungs...

[DaFace]

Do you actually work for a living, Pete? You have about as many posts in this thread than I have on CP in a year. That's truly impressive.