***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Baby Lee]

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

if anyone has a real issues with what the mods are allowing and not allowing they dont HAVE to read or post in this thread.

if anyone needs help with that just let me know, ill be happy to oblige

Draconian...

[petegz28]

Taken by a nurse friend of mine ...

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Not political?

Sorry man, I am not trying to beat the horse here but ****...

I am sure I am going to get told this wasn't political

I don't see that as political, it's a fact. Both said the whole thing was totally under control and was going to soon be down to zero. A fact cannot be biased.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Taken by a nurse friend of mine ...

Masks are not respirators and are not intended to be. They do reduce the spread of respiratory droplets that the virus travels on. Viruses don't fly around in the air with their own propulsion system. If you knock the majority of the droplets down at the mask or near the wearer, you knock the virus down.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Masks are not respirators and are not intended to be. They do reduce the spread of respiratory droplets that the virus travels on. Viruses don't fly around in the air with their own propulsion system. If you knock the majority of the droplets down at the mask or near the wearer, you knock the virus down.

Thank you for telling us what we already know. But contrary to what you may think, a shitload of people are running around wearing masks, improperly mostly, thinking that it does protect them.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

FTR, I pay such little attention to all of the political bullshit and pigeonholing, I really have no idea.... we have consistently allowed articles and discussion around what states are doing and the numbers, etc; whether people want to read into it as political or not.

Maybe one end of the spectrum are the more vocal group for whatever reasons.... the group that generally disagrees with what's happening will be more vocal.

We've said from pretty much the beginning that political opinions aren't welcomed, which of course is a gray area in itself, between "Florida leaders reopened too soon" and "Florida leaders are being idiots" and "Ermergerd those batshit crazy (insert cesspool namecalling) are going to kill us all!".

But, once again, people complaining about bringing politics into this thread, no matter how vague, derails the thread more so than 90% of the political posts.

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I have never had a problem with the mods in this thread. My problem is what everybody screams about being too political.

Especially when a lot of the people bitching about politics in this thread are arguing over in DC.

Just keep it over there and keep the rest of us out of it.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Draconian...

not sure if serious, but im just trying to help save people from themselves.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Donger

Draconian...

That is probably the most overused word in the entire outbreak.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Thank you for telling us what we already know. But contrary to what you may think, a shitload of people are running around wearing masks, improperly mostly, thinking that it does protect them.

Those people are still being protected by the people wearing them properly, same goes for vaccineS the anti Vaxers are still being protected by vaccines whether they believe in them or not.

[wazu]

Pretty sure Donger was kidding.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

not sure if serious, but im just trying to help save people from themselves.

I wasn't.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That is probably the most overused word in the entire outbreak.

Well, it is pretty unprecedented.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

if anyone has a real issues with what the mods are allowing and not allowing they dont HAVE to read or post in this thread.

if anyone needs help with that just let me know, ill be happy to oblige

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Those people are still being protected by the people wearing them properly, same goes for vaccineS the anti Vaxers are still being protected by vaccines whether they believe in them or not.

Oh JFC.....