***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[FloridaMan88]

FS1 suspending their daily sports shows... no more Skip Bayless, Nick Wright, Jason Whitlock for a while.

ESPN’s daily sports shows... Sportscenter, Around the Horn and PTI might be next.

FOX Sports statement on FS1 daily programming below.

Updated programming schedule for this weekend: https://t.co/dFWkLrD4XY pic.twitter.com/KwRW04wIKl

— FOX Sports PR (@FOXSportsPR) March 13, 2020

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

But if under 50 and healthy then .3 percent chance of death? I’ll take it

What about 45 with stage two COPD?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

40 to 70% of Americans are going to get this. To say that 1% will die is being on the safe side right now.

You do the math.

Okay math........


330 million citizens
40% = 133 million citizens
1% death rate = 1.3 million dead


That aint happening dude.

[jjjayb]

But hey. At least everyone shut the hell up about global warming for a minute.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

40 to 70% of Americans are going to get this. To say that 1% will die is being on the safe side right now.

You do the math.

There's no reason, based on the data to date, that that many Americans are going to get this.

[synthesis2]

Originally Posted by Fish

I don't really give one single shit about your 401k if it means my grandparent's life is on the line.

I do and don’t care . If your grandparents are at home and in good shape then they take precautions and they will be just fine. If they are in a nursing home in bad shape waiting to die different story .

But if it’s truly just hurting those old sick people but we are shutting down the economy causing young healthy people raising kids to lose jobs and wind up in poverty I’ll take having the older sick die.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

I do and don’t care . If your grandparents are at home and in good shape then they take precautions and they will be just fine. If they are in a nursing home in bad shape waiting to die different story .

But if it’s truly just hurting those old sick people but we are shutting down the economy causing young healthy people raising kids to lose jobs and wind up in poverty I’ll take having the older sick die.

I think that's really insensitive. But I'm sure you're not alone in that mindset. Just goes to show how impossible it is for a society to agree on a proper approach to something unexpected like this.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

I do and don’t care . If your grandparents are at home and in good shape then they take precautions and they will be just fine. If they are in a nursing home in bad shape waiting to die different story .

But if it’s truly just hurting those old sick people but we are shutting down the economy causing young healthy people raising kids to lose jobs and wind up in poverty I’ll take having the older sick die.

Idiots like you are why this virus is going to keep spreading

[synthesis2]

Originally Posted by Fish

I think that's really insensitive. But I'm sure you're not alone in that mindset. Just goes to show how impossible it is for a society to agree on a proper approach to something unexpected like this.

I don’t think it’s being as insensitive as it is saying something like this . Better if the old/sick pass and the world continues to do well vs everyone is screwed.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

I do and don’t care . If your grandparents are at home and in good shape then they take precautions and they will be just fine. If they are in a nursing home in bad shape waiting to die different story .

But if it’s truly just hurting those old sick people but we are shutting down the economy causing young healthy people raising kids to lose jobs and wind up in poverty I’ll take having the older sick die.

WTF dude? Who cares about your grandma? She can die as long as my 401K is okay? Really?

[synthesis2]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Idiots like you are why this virus is going to keep spreading

Thanks but I don’t want it to spread

[BlackOp]

Wiping out the elderly has been a fantasy of every government in history...they aren't as productive anymore and strain resources.

[synthesis2]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

WTF dude? Who cares about your grandma? She can die as long as my 401K is okay? Really?

Not so much about the 401k vs losing jobs and forcing families to go from middle class to poverty

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

WTF dude? Who cares about your grandma? She can die as long as my 401K is okay? Really?

He's trolling...

[Mahomes_Is_God]

All this old people hate is uncalled for. As long as they aren't behind the wheel of a moving vehicle I have no problem with them.