***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I also wanted to point out for the Brazil talk, they are also testing in small numbers so their numbers spiking is a really bad sign. They have a ton of people, lots of poor that live right on top of each other, they're 3rd in cases with a testing number that is 11 times less than the US...

The other place that will likely see this happen is India, their testing is also very sparse and they've risen to 11th in cases.

Luckily in Rio they aren't very seasonal so they are somewhat adverse to the cold and flu season, but there could be parts of Brazil that get demolished by this thing (and other countries in the Southern Hemisphere)

[KCUnited]

We're preparing for phase 3 in IL which is when nonessential offices are able to open. Surveys have gone out on comfort levels and concerns and the vibe I'm getting, at least early on, is that people who feel comfortable going in can, those who don't won't have to. The divisiveness is already getting petty. If you want to go in, you're a selfish tryhard karen. If you don't, you're an opportunistic lazy karen wearing leggings all day.

Should be a good use case for pandemic protocols in future management training.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by wazu

I'm definitely part of the "end the lockdowns, stop all this nonsense" crowd, but I still wear a mask at the grocery store. It costs me nothing. It also feels like it discourages people from making small talk with me which is a major bonus.

people wanting to chat at Walmart would almost persuade me to wear one those damn things.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Brazil wallowing around with us now. Same amount of new cases.

Wasn't their president a denialist too, at the start?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Wasn't their president a denialist too, at the start?

Yea, he still is actually.....people think Trump is bad, that dude is like Trump on steroids.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by wazu

I'm definitely part of the "end the lockdowns, stop all this nonsense" crowd, but I still wear a mask at the grocery store. It costs me nothing. It also feels like it discourages people from making small talk with me which is a major bonus.

You sound like the life of the party type.

[Mecca]

Here's what I like to see in the morning...

Florida knew a COVID-19 pandemic was likely. State leaders didn’t warn the public.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/hea...242844471.html

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here's what I like to see in the morning...

Florida knew a COVID-19 pandemic was likely. State leaders didn’t warn the public.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/hea...242844471.html

Take the politics elsewhere. Why do you keep posting political crap?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Take the politics elsewhere. Why do you keep posting political crap?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

You sound like the life of the party type.

Some people are introverts and prefer to avoid small talk.

Nothing wrong with that.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

[Mecca]

Man so political...

How about this, 4 states, Texas, Georgia, Vermont and Virginia are double dipping their numbers by putting the viral and antibody testing numbers together. It's a very easy way of making your numbers look better than they actually are since I doubt many people understand things like conditional probability and Bayes rule

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Take the politics elsewhere. Why do you keep posting political crap?

He should have been banned from this thread long ago, but because he hasn’t been, it’s now a political thread. Post whatever politics you want as that what has been established.

[Mecca]

What in the holy **** did I say that is political there?

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

What in the holy **** did I say that is political there?

You're not following the same lead as they are.