Tom Brady Retiring

[Dante84]

Patrick Mahomes, you’re up.

2023 version:

Video of Tom Brady making the news official: “I’m retiring. For good.”pic.twitter.com/oEPV3smYrH https://t.co/Rt37oFP7Jh

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) February 1, 2023

2022 version:

Tom Brady is retiring from football after 22 extraordinary seasons, multiple sources tell @JeffDarlington and me.

More coming on https://t.co/rDZaVFhcDQ. pic.twitter.com/6CHWmMlyXg

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 29, 2022

EDIT: Timeline below.
1. Darlington & Schefter report Brady is retiring.
2. TB12, Tom’s brand/company, tweet (then later delete) about his retirement.
3. Toms teammates tweet about his retirement.
4. Tom’s agent, dad, Arians, and Licht all say Tom hasn’t decided yet.
5. Ian Rappaport says many sources confirm Tom plans to retire but the pushback is due to timing.
6. Tom announces retirement again in 2023.

[Goldmember]

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP

Brady will drag it out until he has an ESPN Plus special dedicated to his retirement.

Drama queen.

NFL Network is already showing the Brady Marathon. Twice I tried to watch Chiefs games today and they pre-empted it with that ****er

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

I hope you’re wearing a mask.

I always do I wanna get the 4th dose of vaxx too

[Deberg_1990]

rewatching Man in the Arena season 1 today

[stevegroganfan]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

If you watch the AFCCG against the Jaguars...and are honest...you'll see why Brady is "great."..it's his entire legacy summed up it one game.

Yup great game by Brady considering he was facing a legitimately elite defense/secondary with Jalen Ramsey and doing so without Gronk for half the game.

He overcome a key fumble by Dion Lewis. Gronk just played 26 snaps since Gronk got an illegal shot to the head taking him out of the game in the first half....

I have watched the game before, there really was 3 penalties by the Jags that made the huge difference in penalty yards. Two very obvious DPIs for around 65+ yards and a 15 yarder for a headshot to Gronk. The Patriots understandable would rather have Gronk not take a tough shot to the head than 15 yards.

All 3 calls comprising the bulk of the yards were obvious with announcers not questioning them at all but stating they were clear calls. It would have been egregious and ridiculous not to call them. On one play, Patriots top deep threat was pushed out of bounds. Literally pushed 2 yards so he ended up out of bounds while ball is in flight. I don't know why the Jags defender did that but it may have just been genuine fear of Brady's accuracy throwing the ball.

On another Patriots receiver slowed down since the ball was underthrown by Brady. But instead of playing it right, Jags defender starts a mini horse collar of Patriots receiver and turns him around when ball is still in the air. Another rather obvious flag that any ref even in a game of letting stuff go needs to call every time.

Jags secondary simply messed up on at least 2 of those 3 plays. I won't say the illegal hit on Gronk was a mess up if you are trying to knock him out of the game with a concussion.

Tell me which one of those 3 plays you disagree with and any calls not called against the Patriots that game that were as egregious as those 3?

The fact of the matter is the Jags had multiple opportunities to win in the 4th quarter but the Patriots made the plays and won the game. That was the game in which Gilmore from what I can remember made a great play on a pretty good throw to seal the game.

By the way, watch all of the Patriots games against Denver in the playoffs and you will see a game in which the Patriots kind of got *****. Denver was committing a bunch of penalties without it being called. These weren't minor ones like 2015 AFC championship game where Gronk in the end zone of two different plays were interfered with slyly by defenders such as Talib.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Stryker

That leaves the future to...

Mahomes
Herbert
Allen
Burrow
all AFC teams!

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Kyler Murray
Trey Lance
Justin Fields
Jalen Hurts
Daniel Jones

For young NFC guns.

Zach Wilson too for AFC.

Another reason we need to win this one game and the next one this year. The path back will only get harder. Subject to a thin line of failure and success.

[stevegroganfan]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

7 more than the previous record? Almost 50% more. Do you know how many we’ve gotten this season? Chiefs had 5. We had 4 last year when it took 27 to get Brady 11 wins.

Brady put up better numbers this year and more wins despite Bucs having -198 difference in penalties.

How many extremely accurate passer in NFL history have played with physical freaks like Mike Evans, aging but still good Gronk and to a lesser extent Chris Godwin/Antonio Brown/Scottie Miller and had a good offensive line? Miller got some calls since even though he isn't that good, he is fast for a 4th or 5th receiver and so when single teamed defenders realized they were screwed at times and just interfered. If Miller was treated as a number 1 or 2 option by defenses, he would rarely get calls.

Mike Evans did get a lot of DPIs but he is also called for his fair share of offensive pass interference calls. No suprise that Evans got a lot of DPIs since defenses were legitimately fearful of long passes to him. First NFL receiver to begin his career with 7 or 8 1000 yard seasons. Brady threw a lot of long passes last year and at times defenders tackled Evans when the ball was in the air.

Tyreek Hill probably doesn't get many DPIs as I have stated before since there really isn't a defender that can easily stay with him down the field so cornerbacks often give him big cushions. Defenders are usually giving him space and then hoping if its a 50/50 ball that they win that since Hill isn't that tall.

When Brady had mediocre wide receivers in New England that were not deep threats despite his accuracy throwing the ball, he didn't normally get that many DPIs for who Brett Favre once called the most accurate quarterback he has ever seen.

DPIs have a lot to do with the receiver/his style of play and not just how much defenders fear the throwing accuracy of a QB.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by stevegroganfan

Brady put up better numbers this year and more wins despite Bucs having -198 difference in penalties.

How many extremely accurate passer in NFL history have played with physical freaks like Mike Evans, aging but still good Gronk and to a lesser extent Chris Godwin/Antonio Brown/Scottie Miller and had a good offensive line? Miller got some calls since even though he isn't that good, he is fast for a 4th or 5th receiver and so when single teamed defenders realized they were screwed at times and just interfered. If Miller was treated as a number 1 or 2 option by defenses, he would rarely get calls.

Mike Evans did get a lot of DPIs but he is also called for his fair share of offensive pass interference calls. No suprise that Evans got a lot of DPIs since defenses were legitimately fearful of long passes to him. First NFL receiver to begin his career with 7 or 8 1000 yard seasons. Brady threw a lot of long passes last year and at times defenders tackled Evans when the ball was in the air.

Tyreek Hill probably doesn't get many DPIs as I have stated before since there really isn't a defender that can easily stay with him down the field so cornerbacks often give him big cushions. Defenders are usually giving him space and then hoping if its a 50/50 ball that they win that since Hill isn't that tall.

When Brady had mediocre wide receivers in New England that were not deep threats despite his accuracy throwing the ball, he didn't normally get that many DPIs for who Brett Favre once called the most accurate quarterback he has ever seen.

DPIs have a lot to do with the receiver/his style of play and not just how much defenders fear the throwing accuracy of a QB.

All of this is total bullshit.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Can confirm that I texted Tom Brady and he didn’t text me back.

— Matt Cassel (@M_Cassel16) January 29, 2022

Holy shit. That is actually funny. Well played Cassel.

[TripleThreat]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Jesus, you’re a butt****ing moron. Let me guess, last years SB was called fairly as well? Keep Brady’s dick in your mouth.

You're a pussy who cant hold a conversation.

[DRM08]

Schefter & Rapaport seem extremely confident it’s a done deal. Would be hilarious if it goes the other direction.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by stevegroganfan

Yup great game by Brady considering he was facing a legitimately elite defense/secondary with Jalen Ramsey and doing so without Gronk for half the game.

He overcome a key fumble by Dion Lewis. Gronk just played 26 snaps since Gronk got an illegal shot to the head taking him out of the game in the first half....

I have watched the game before, there really was 3 penalties by the Jags that made the huge difference in penalty yards. Two very obvious DPIs for around 65+ yards and a 15 yarder for a headshot to Gronk. The Patriots understandable would rather have Gronk not take a tough shot to the head than 15 yards.

All 3 calls comprising the bulk of the yards were obvious with announcers not questioning them at all but stating they were clear calls. It would have been egregious and ridiculous not to call them. On one play, Patriots top deep threat was pushed out of bounds. Literally pushed 2 yards so he ended up out of bounds while ball is in flight. I don't know why the Jags defender did that but it may have just been genuine fear of Brady's accuracy throwing the ball.

On another Patriots receiver slowed down since the ball was underthrown by Brady. But instead of playing it right, Jags defender starts a mini horse collar of Patriots receiver and turns him around when ball is still in the air. Another rather obvious flag that any ref even in a game of letting stuff go needs to call every time.

Jags secondary simply messed up on at least 2 of those 3 plays. I won't say the illegal hit on Gronk was a mess up if you are trying to knock him out of the game with a concussion.

Tell me which one of those 3 plays you disagree with and any calls not called against the Patriots that game that were as egregious as those 3?

The fact of the matter is the Jags had multiple opportunities to win in the 4th quarter but the Patriots made the plays and won the game. That was the game in which Gilmore from what I can remember made a great play on a pretty good throw to seal the game.

By the way, watch all of the Patriots games against Denver in the playoffs and you will see a game in which the Patriots kind of got *****. Denver was committing a bunch of penalties without it being called. These weren't minor ones like 2015 AFC championship game where Gronk in the end zone of two different plays were interfered with slyly by defenders such as Talib.

Holy shit...you had to write a novel to justify the biggest hose job I have ever witnessed outside of the Rams/Saints game...while not even giving your most important team member credit for his masterwork...how dare you snub Clete Blakemen like that. You had 1/10 vs. 6/98 in penalty yards...give the man his due! He fronted you almost an entire football field in yardage...while erasing a touchdown fumble return.

Your post sums what seems to universal amongst the Brady cult...complete lack of objectivity. You simply ignore anything that doesn't support your worship...

The cool thing about Mahomes..is I dont have to rationalize his wins to anyone. He's never been on the winning side of something as skewd as that. That was a disgrace...and you should be embarrassed as a fan. If something like that happened tomorrow...and Mahomes won on some overt bullshit. I'd be pissed..I wouldn't be acting like it didnt happen.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Schefter & Rapaport seem extremely confident it’s a done deal. Would be hilarious if it goes the other direction.

Wow, so Adam is dug in. Ok. Let's roll Adam.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

I hope you’re wearing a mask.

Do ball gags count as masks?

[Mephistopheles Janx]

[stevegroganfan]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Holy shit...you had to write a novel to justify the biggest hose job I have ever witnessed outside of the Rams/Saints game...while not even giving your most important team member credit for his masterwork...how dare you snub Clete Blakemen like that. You had 1/10 vs. 6/98 in penalty yards...give the man his due! He fronted you almost an entire football field in yardage...while erasing a touchdown fumble return.

Your post sums what seems to universal amongst the Brady cult...complete lack of objectivity. You simply ignore anything that doesn't support your worship...

The cool thing about Mahomes..is I dont have to rationalize his wins to anyone. He's never been on the winning side of something as skewd as that. That was a disgrace...and you should be embarrassed as a fan. If something like that happened tomorrow...and Mahomes won on some overt bullshit. I'd be pissed..I wouldn't be acting like it didnt happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=738K4vIDNAE

There isn't really one major call of significance with Brady in New England at least that pundits harp on that was wrong. Tell me the play that was as egregious as that Sorenson play...nevermind what happened to the Saints. Even most people admit the Tuck Rule was a bad rule to try to fix a tough issue but correctly called given the rule at the time which was enforced against the Patriots that same year. The video of the Jags AFC championship game makes it obvious Jags did DPI. See above Youtube commentary on the refs! See the pundits sarcasm... If you here the live game commentary, the announcers said it was clear right away.

I explained why Jags got over 100 penalty yards. The vast majority came on 3 calls that most refs would call for any team/QB/receiver/tight end.

If they didn't, they may be out of a job for poor performance after a while.

As for the Chiefs under Reid and Mahomes.... As I've pointed it out before, lots of Niners fans feel they were shortchanged with the way that SB game was called/not called.

In another close playoff game, the Sorenson hit was egregious and given how close that game ended up being and that Mahomes wasn't even in the game at the end, a possible game changer. Not as bad as the horrific non call that went against the Saints but one of the worst non calls in recent playoff history since in all likelihood it wiped a TD off the books.

If we are being technical about consistently enforcing the rules, Tyreek Hill should have been called for taunting against Buffalo.

Patriots were just beneficiaries of drafting Brady and some good cap management and team building over the years. The rest is mostly just sour grapes.

The Patriots arguably lost Super Bowls and other playoff games to bad non calls/calls but the Patriots fans don't excessively whine about it. For example, see probably future HOFer Seymour held on critical play right before a miraculous play by Eli and the Giants.