And so the "Matt Cassel to KC" Rumors Begin...

[FloridaMan88]

As if they hadn't started already...

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...&position=also


Matt Cassel draws interest


TAMPA - They might not have been one of the two Super Bowl participants last night, but the Patriots [team stats] still generated a lot of talk on Radio Row during the week.

With Matt Cassel making the rounds, there was plenty of speculation on how much interest he would draw should the Pats apply the franchise tag and then trade him.

The pundits’ top pick to land Cassel in that scenario is Kansas City. Obviously, the Scott Pioli factor weighs heavily in that choice, with the Pats former vice president of player personnel now calling the shots for the Chiefs.

“I’d really look at Pioli down there in Kansas City. Why wouldn’t he want him?” Sirius NFL radio analyst Jim Miller said. “He knows what the kid is capable of doing. So I think he’d be on their radar.”

Miller, like most analysts, doesn’t see the crop of quarterbacks in this year’s NFL Draft as particularly appealing. That boosts the draw for Cassel, especially if Pioli decides he’s not satisfied with the collection of QBs he inherited after taking over the job.

“I don’t think this is a strong quarterback draft. Everybody is saying Matthew Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of USC are going to go in the Top 10. I don’t believe that,” Miller said. “I don’t think those guys are ready. And I don’t think you’ll see the type of success guys like Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco had. They just haven’t played enough. So I can’t see teams wanting them.

“But if Kansas (City) were to make that deal, that’s their Matt Ryan. That’s their Joe Flacco. Unlike a Sanchez, for instance, they know he’s playing at a starter’s level. So to them, I think it’d be worth it to do. They’d get their starting quarterback, they know what he’s capable of doing, and they’ve seen him win games at the NFL level.”

Other experts, meanwhile, aren’t sure Pioli would want to deal with his former boss right out of the gate.

Some other teams figuring to make a pitch for Cassel include the New York Jets, Detroit, Minnesota, San Francisco, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Chicago.

As for what Cassel would land in a trade, there were differing opinions. Miller, for one, thought he would cost a second-round draft choice.

The decision to trade or keep Cassel will ultimately depend on Tom Brady [stats]’s health. While reports have him on target to play in the season opener, he still has a few hurdles to clear before that point following reconstructive surgery on his left knee and a subsequent staph infection.

“I think a lot is going to depend on where Kevin O’Connell is in his development. If they feel they can move Matt to benefit their team, they’ll do it,” said Miller, a one-time Pats backup quarterback. “It’s rolling the dice on Tom and whether he’s healthy, and two, can they do it with Kevin O’Connell? The question they have to ask is if O’Connell is as capable of what they have in Matt Cassel?”

[ChiefRon]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

I'm waiting for him to tell us the last time that someone traded out of the top 3.

Crickets.

[The_Doctor10]

Originally Posted by RustShack

I'll take a 20 year old over a 26 year old. Especially when the younger QB has more experience, isn't the product of surrounding talent, has all the physical tools, and a lot more upside.

Gah, piss off with the 'Physical tools' nonsense. Kyle Boller had physical tools. So did Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Jeff George, the list goes on. It doesn't matter how hard or far you can throw the ball, if you constantly put the ball into traffic, it's gonna get picked at this level. A million dollar arm is useless when your decision-making is atrocious.

[wazimo]

I was the one WISHING for Haynesworth, Boldin, Cassel, and keeping our third overall pick. I think I actually said it would be wishful thinking and in no way predicted this would happen.

Realistically, I would like to think we could sign Haynesworth, keep the # 3 pick and still have enough money to sign a free or two. I think Arizona would be fooling to let Boldin go.

I am not a big fan of Stafford and I live in Atlanta. I have seen him play in person quite a bit. He has all the tools but does not seem to have the mental makeup to make it as a top flight NFL QB. He locks onto receivers too much and does not go very far down his reads.

Cassel may or may not be franchised....it's a heck of a $15M gamble by the Pats. If they don't, he would definately be worth a look as a free agent. I'll defer to Pioli, who obviously has far more knowledge on him than certain posters on this board, despite what they seem to think.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by wazimo

I am not a big fan of Stafford and I live in Atlanta. I have seen him play in person quite a bit. He has all the tools but does not seem to have the mental makeup to make it as a top flight NFL QB. He locks onto receivers too much and does not go very far down his reads.

I've watched a lot of Stafford as well and I've seen him play in person. I do not agree with your assessment, and even if it were true that's something that's coachable.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

Gah, piss off with the 'Physical tools' nonsense. Kyle Boller had physical tools. So did Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Jeff George, the list goes on. It doesn't matter how hard or far you can throw the ball, if you constantly put the ball into traffic, it's gonna get picked at this level. A million dollar arm is useless when your decision-making is atrocious.

Since neither have atrocious decision making we are in a good situation. You probably thought Ryans was a lot worse since he threw 19 INT's right?

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by wazimo

I am not a big fan of Stafford and I live in Atlanta. I have seen him play in person quite a bit. He has all the tools but does not seem to have the mental makeup to make it as a top flight NFL QB. He locks onto receivers too much and does not go very far down his reads.

You must have only watched him and not paid attention to the fact his WR's weren't getting as much separation as they should and the biggest factor of all how bad his Oline was.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Exactly our point, what your saying is an OPINION. What we are saying is actually how shit in the NFL works.

Man, the arrogance is out of control.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

I'm waiting for him to tell us the last time that someone traded out of the top 3.

I was gonna ignore that request because it was absolutely irrelevant and stupid. But since you insist I have to tell you that unlike you I have followed and observed the NFL for a good long time. I have seen many trades done that way. Im not going to waste time researching the last time. It's your job if you want to know. That said, I know it is more difficult and naturally more rare these days. But i won't make your asinine claim that it is absolutely impossible.

Next.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by RustShack

You must have only watched him and not paid attention to the fact his WR's weren't getting as much separation as they should and the biggest factor of all how bad his Oline was.

And the twist on Stafford begins.

face it, hes the worst top round QB to come out since Alex Smith

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

Gah, piss off with the 'Physical tools' nonsense. Kyle Boller had physical tools. So did Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Jeff George, the list goes on. It doesn't matter how hard or far you can throw the ball, if you constantly put the ball into traffic, it's gonna get picked at this level. A million dollar arm is useless when your decision-making is atrocious.

HOW DARE YOU DEFY THE GODS WITH MERE LOGIC?!!!! BEWARE THE LIGHTNING BOLTS FROM THE ALL_KNOWING DEITY.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

And the twist on Stafford begins.

face it, hes the worst top round QB to come out since Alex Smith

Even though hes a better prospect than Ryan was.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I was gonna ignore that request because it was absolutely irrelevant and stupid. But since you insist I have to tell you that unlike you I have followed and observed the NFL for a good long time. I have seen many trades done that way. Im not going to waste time researching the last time. It's your job if you want to know. That said, I know it is more difficult and naturally more rare these days. But i won't make your asinine claim that it is absolutely impossible.

Next.

Nice. Make a fallacious claim and pass it as fact. When it's questioned, refuse to back it up.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me the last time a team traded out of the #3 overall selection.

Finally, you claim to have followed and observed the NFL for a good long time. Honestly, it doesn't show. At all.

[ChiefRon]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I was gonna ignore that request because it was absolutely irrelevant and stupid. But since you insist I have to tell you that unlike you I have followed and observed the NFL for a good long time. I have seen many trades done that way. Im not going to waste time researching the last time. It's your job if you want to know. That said, I know it is more difficult and naturally more rare these days. But i won't make your asinine claim that it is absolutely impossible.

Next.

Are you a politician?

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Since neither have atrocious decision making we are in a good situation. You probably thought Ryans was a lot worse since he threw 19 INT's right?

The resident Football gods point to the Ryan argument as their only claim to fame. You guys have used this line more often than Charlie Sheen using his favorite whore. Enough already! Matt Ryan was a gamble that high by all available evidence at the time. Atlanta rolled the dice and hit snake eyes with it. That's all. I predicted that Clady was a good choice for us and look how I was right. But this is the 1st time I have come anywhere close to using it to argue my Football prowess. GROW THE F**K UP!

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by wazimo

I am not a big fan of Stafford and I live in Atlanta. I have seen him play in person quite a bit. He has all the tools but does not seem to have the mental makeup to make it as a top flight NFL QB. He locks onto receivers too much and does not go very far down his reads.

I do not claim to have watched him A LOT. But I have several times. That is EXACTLY how I thought of his play.