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ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-23-2019, 09:33 AM

Former Giants’ DC and HC Steve Spagnuolo has emerged as the favorite to replace Bob Sutton as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, per sources.

Spagnuolo and Andy Reid worked together in Philadelphia, share the same agent and have a mutual respect for each other’s work.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 23, 2019

The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019

**The Franchise** · 01-23-2019, 11:13 AM

Hitchens played well in a 4-3. Speaks and KPass are built for a 4-3. Nnadi and Jones can play inside in a 4-3 and Houston should have no problem playing DE in a 4-3.

FFS....the transition won't be that hard. This team still needs DBs on the back end. That wasn't going to change from a 3-4 to a 4-3.

1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Get Houston to restructure.
3. Go out and find two capable CBs to play along with Ward and Fuller.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-23-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

I always thought he was Blitz heavy from the secondary...?

Appears so.

O.city · 01-23-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yards are more predictive over any appreciable timeline and a better demonstration of 'dominance' and/or duration that points surrendered.

Yes, in any given game, 'bend but don't break' can hold teams to field goals, keep the points down and win you a ballgame. But over the course of the season you're going to eventually run into that critical game where the red zone stops or 3rd down stops just don't come and you bend...then break.

Meanwhile if you're a team that excels at not giving up yards, statistically you're far more likely to be able to repeat that on a game to game basis.

That's why that 2016 season of his strikes me as a little bit of fools gold. His PPG was excellent but his YPG was merely above average. I believe the YPG was probably more demonstrative of the job he was doing and a lot of those cracks that were papered over in '16 surfaced in a big way in '17.

Yeah, the yards don't matter crowd has kind of spoiled me here.

Technically, they don't. But you just can't rely on being great in the red zone. Stop teams before they get there.

**chiefforlife** · 01-23-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

A 4-3 probably makes Jones better because then his desire to not play the run isn't as hurtful as it is when in a 3-4 he does that 2 lineman go get the LB's immediately.

Maybe line Houston up next to Jones and watch out!!

I am liking this idea more and more.

Marcellus · 01-23-2019, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Agreed,

We just need shut down corners and amazing pass rush now....

We already have one of those.

O.city · 01-23-2019, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You really want them to pay Ford?

Also 4-3 should make Speaks and Kpass guys who can actually contribute.

Kpass is the type of guy Spags will like because with his size he can play all over the line. Matter of fat Jones and Speaks could do that to and he's shown he likes moving the DL around.

I'm actually a little intrigued by getting Kpass and Jones inside some.

They're gonna have to be able to stop the run first.

BryanBusby · 01-23-2019, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pest

Hitchens played well in a 4-3. Speaks and KPass are built for a 4-3. Nnadi and Jones can play inside in a 4-3 and Houston should have no problem playing DE in a 4-3.

FFS....the transition won't be that hard. This team still needs DBs on the back end. That wasn't going to change from a 3-4 to a 4-3.

1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Get Houston to restructure.
3. Go out and find two capable CBs to play along with Ward and Fuller.

So you're suggesting that they're going to keep Justin Houston at a cap hit of 21 million?

**dirk digler** · 01-23-2019, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Giants fan on Spagnuolo.

Very much bend don’t break mentality and it felt like we struggled to make stops on 3rd downs and allowed long drives but became shutdown in the red zone.

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Sounds familiar lol

Mecca · 01-23-2019, 11:15 AM

Dorian O'Daniel likely gets a shot to start as smaller faster LB's in the 4-3 is the norm now.

kcclone · 01-23-2019, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pest

Hitchens played well in a 4-3. Speaks and KPass are built for a 4-3. Nnadi and Jones can play inside in a 4-3 and Houston should have no problem playing DE in a 4-3.

FFS....the transition won't be that hard. This team still needs DBs on the back end. That wasn't going to change from a 3-4 to a 4-3.

1. Tag and trade Ford.
2. Get Houston to restructure.
3. Go out and find two capable CBs to play along with Ward and Fuller.

Bingo. We had the second to worst defense in the NFL for crying out loud. No one is saying we need to be the 2000 Ravens. Just become respectable.

We have to have the ability to win in more ways than just scoring 40 ppg.

**The Franchise** · 01-23-2019, 11:15 AM

KPass is similar to Justin Tuck IMO. Not production....but size and measurable wise. Tuck is just a little bit quicker.

Mecca · 01-23-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

So you're suggesting that they're going to keep Justin Houston at a cap hit of 21 million?

Only if he takes a paycut, he might consider it. The idea of in the later stages of his career becoming an end that doesn't have to drop into coverage might be appealing to him.

**The Franchise** · 01-23-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

So you're suggesting that they're going to keep Justin Houston at a cap hit of 21 million?

Sure....if you completely ignore #2.

BleedingRed · 01-23-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Dorian O'Daniel likely gets a shot to start as smaller faster LB's in the 4-3 is the norm now.

I wouldn't say smaller but faster yes

O.city · 01-23-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

So you're suggesting that they're going to keep Justin Houston at a cap hit of 21 million?

Surely they'll restructure it or something?

01-23-2019, 09:33 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs ShowtimeSBMVP's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2009	Spagnuolo hired as DC Former Giants’ DC and HC Steve Spagnuolo has emerged as the favorite to replace Bob Sutton as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, per sources. Spagnuolo and Andy Reid worked together in Philadelphia, share the same agent and have a mutual respect for each other’s work. — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 23, 2019 The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC. — Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019 Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 01-24-2019 at 04:34 PM..
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain The Franchise's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2006	Hitchens played well in a 4-3. Speaks and KPass are built for a 4-3. Nnadi and Jones can play inside in a 4-3 and Houston should have no problem playing DE in a 4-3. FFS....the transition won't be that hard. This team still needs DBs on the back end. That wasn't going to change from a 3-4 to a 4-3. 1. Tag and trade Ford. 2. Get Houston to restructure. 3. Go out and find two capable CBs to play along with Ward and Fuller.
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