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05-17-2020, 11:03 AM | #31411 | |
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05-17-2020, 11:04 AM | #31412 | |
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05-17-2020, 11:09 AM | #31413 |
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Absolutely political. And sadly much of it had to be regarding the PPE issues, anyone could see how the American people would react. Now we keep hearing about these factories and companies producing mass amounts of PPE and how it's all "AWESOME!" Anyone on the front lines will tell you we are still vastly short on PPE, reusing gowns and masks for days or different patients. Limited access to N95's, unless you want to be gouged on prices from suppliers selling to the highest bidders.
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05-17-2020, 11:11 AM | #31414 |
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05-17-2020, 11:15 AM | #31415 | |
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And how is this different from other messages, where projections of optimism with the reminder to consult your physician for specifics and applicability, is called to account for not being sufficiently credentialled, vetted and scrupulously crafted? |
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05-17-2020, 11:15 AM | #31416 | |
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We just have to be careful. You don't want to open things up too rapidly and see this heinous virus start spreading again. |
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05-17-2020, 11:18 AM | #31417 | |
Now you've pissed me off!
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The efficacy argument is different--the question raised therein is "what are the risks of the providers of not having PPE vs. what are the risks to the general population?" If the providers can't give you care, then the system collapses. If enough people get sick that they overwhelm the hospital system, the system collapses. It's an easy target, but what you don't see are people performing sterile compounding in Tyvek jackets that are falling apart, reusing the same surgical mask 20 times, tracking shit all around ISO 7 areas, putting N95 masks in paper bags between shifts, and sourcing facemasks from Harbor Freight because people decided to hoard PPE. If you want to use this example to throw the baby out with the bathwater, then you are more than welcome. |
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05-17-2020, 11:19 AM | #31418 |
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Wiscy had an open the flood gates opening. Some restrictions, but we know people.
People from Minnesota and Illinois coming in so they can get out. |
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05-17-2020, 11:26 AM | #31419 | |
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But continue to use big, cool words so you look credible. |
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05-17-2020, 11:26 AM | #31420 | |
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You lot seem to leaning hard [in some instances] that the sole acceptable standard is fully transparent, vetted and knowledgeable information. Yet in other instances, executive summaries, or shortcut shorthand, even so far as knowing falsehoods have a context that makes fudging and futzing 'rational and acceptable.' Yeah, maybe we throw that baby out the ****ing window and admit that there are plenty of knowledge deficiencies to go around and most everyone is trying their best to make the situation most survivable and endurable overall. |
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05-17-2020, 11:32 AM | #31421 | |
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Did you support, criticize, or have no opinion of the facemask misinformation, and how is that different from projecting optimism while also advising consultation with medical professionals? I mean, whether you support it or condemn it, we've clearly established that there exists other concerns in conveying information under medical authority than the most effective individual precautions known at the time. . . |
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05-17-2020, 11:34 AM | #31422 | |
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I can tell the entire population to take Tamiflu next year and I will guarantee that it will lead to a decrease in hospitalizations from flu and a shortening of symptoms for those that take it. That doesn't make universal Tamiflu the right decision. |
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05-17-2020, 11:35 AM | #31423 | |
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05-17-2020, 11:37 AM | #31424 | |
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05-17-2020, 12:10 PM | #31425 |
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Down here in Arkansas part of that order included a travel ban. If you left the state you were suppose to notify the state department of health. If you did not then you got fined. Air travel was done automatically. My aunt and her boyfriend went on a ride to Missouri. They stopped a restaurant in West Plains came back through Gainesville and visited our cousin. She posted about that trip on Facebook. The Sheriff is on her Facebook. She got a $500 fine for leaving the state for recreation. It was not deemed a trip of necessity.
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