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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 09-10-2023, 10:40 AM   #3121
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Brett Veach has blinders on when evaluating WRs, we already had plenty of evidence of that well before Moore.
He's drafted 2 receivers with valuable assets and one of them scored while showing potential.

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Old 09-10-2023, 11:03 AM   #3122
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He's drafted 2 receivers with valuable assets and one of them scored while showing potential.

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I’m including taking CEH over Higgins.

1) Hardman over Metcalf/McLaurin
2) CEH over Higgins/Pittman (or Taylor if you stick with a RB)
3) Moore over Pickens (and Pierce)

Rice has clearly shown early promise, so we’ll see.

Veach has been very good at evaluating cornerbacks, perhaps better than anyone. It’s okay to admit he’s been equally as bad at evaluating WRs.
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Old 09-10-2023, 12:22 PM   #3123
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I’m including taking CEH over Higgins.

1) Hardman over Metcalf/McLaurin
2) CEH over Higgins/Pittman (or Taylor if you stick with a RB)
3) Moore over Pickens (and Pierce)

Rice has clearly shown early promise, so we’ll see.

Veach has been very good at evaluating cornerbacks, perhaps better than anyone. It’s okay to admit he’s been equally as bad at evaluating WRs.
Are we sure Veach is the one making the decisions about WRs? Have to think Andy is just as responsible for whatever good or poor wrs are selected.
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Old 09-10-2023, 12:48 PM   #3124
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Are we sure Veach is the one making the decisions about WRs? Have to think Andy is just as responsible for whatever good or poor wrs are selected.

Why? Andy has input, but he doesn’t do any of the scouting, and he makes none of the draft picks
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Old 09-10-2023, 03:48 PM   #3125
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For a great as Veach has been on the CB position; I believe he has been the exact opposite at WR. I have never seen anything out of Skyy. Never popped once.
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Old 09-10-2023, 03:57 PM   #3126
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Why? Andy has input, but he doesn’t do any of the scouting, and he makes none of the draft picks
Andy Reid absolutely dictates the type of player they are drafting. Maybe not the player but he defines the type. They’ve been trying to replace that Tyreek-type since Hardman.

A lot of the judgements being made here are typical hindsight bullshit.
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Old 09-10-2023, 04:05 PM   #3127
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Old 09-10-2023, 04:08 PM   #3128
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He's drafted 2 receivers with valuable assets and one of them scored while showing potential.

Relax
I think the worry is he’s been absolutely horrible at drafting offensive skill positions.

Rice does look like he could be good tho
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Before I’d write him off I’d actually throw him the ball some
Our WRs need 5 years in the league to learn the offense before we get them on the field catching passes.
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Old 09-10-2023, 04:14 PM   #3131
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Andy Reid absolutely dictates the type of player they are drafting. Maybe not the player but he defines the type. They’ve been trying to replace that Tyreek-type since Hardman.

A lot of the judgements being made here are typical hindsight bullshit.
Dictates? No.

He has input. He has the same information gathered by scouts that Veach does. He even gets involved with player interviews pre-draft. But Veach is the one who dictates. Veach makes the actual pick and the decision. Ideally there is plenty of communication with Andy on that front, and that's something that Dorsey couldn't do very well. But it's Veach who makes those choices.
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Looked like he got open plenty to me from section 211 last week

Pat shoild throw him the ball more
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Old 09-10-2023, 04:26 PM   #3133
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Dictates? No.

He has input. He has the same information gathered by scouts that Veach does. He even gets involved with player interviews pre-draft. But Veach is the one who dictates. Veach makes the actual pick and the decision. Ideally there is plenty of communication with Andy on that front, and that's something that Dorsey couldn't do very well. But it's Veach who makes those choices.
Yeah I can agree with that. Perhaps dictates was the wrong word. But in my mind I always figured that Andy had a strong influence on the ranking of the position. I think he is involved enough that he is impacting the decision more so than some other positions.

It's also possible Veach might have gone in different directions a few times if we ran a different scheme. Perhaps the scheme and Reid have no influence but I feel like both probably do.
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Yeah I can agree with that. Perhaps dictates was the wrong word. But in my mind I always figured that Andy had a strong influence on the ranking of the position. I think he is involved enough that he is impacting the decision more so than some other positions.

It's also possible Veach might have gone in different directions a few times if we ran a different scheme. Perhaps the scheme and Reid have no influence but I feel like both probably do.

When has Andy ever drafted a guy like Skyy Moore before the 3rd round?

Todd Pinkston? Who ironically is on the coaching staff
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