***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Just for a little local flavor here in KCMO.....heard on local talk radio that reported COVID deaths remain at 16 (KC on the Missouri side) while homicides since the lockdown began are now at 20. That's....crazy.

Is it?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Do what you gotta do. A mild case of covid is going to end alot of peoples workouts for the summer. Not worth it.

Considering a mild case is over and done with in the matter of a week or so I don't think it is going to ruin someone's 3 months of summer. Just saying.....you're not doing good with the math today, bro

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Considering a mild case is over and done with in the matter of a week or so I don't think it is going to ruin someone's 3 months of summer. Just saying.....you're not doing good with the math today, bro

Getting a mild case of the flu can effect peooles performance for weeks. Rona is worse than the flu bud.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Is it?

Yes, but no.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Getting a mild case of the flu can effect peooles performance for weeks. Rona is worse than the flu bud.

If you say so

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Getting a mild case of the flu can effect peooles performance for weeks. Rona is worse than the flu bud.

If the flu puts you down for weeks it is not mild. Enough with the drama.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by sedated

Forgive me if this is getting political or beating a dead horse, but I don't see why so many people have an issue wearing a mask compared to, say, driving drunk. Both are choices that can harm other people. One is universally shamed, the other has become a symbol of personal freedom.

What's the difference with someone who refuses to wear a mask while saying "I can control myself, I'll use common sense". Is that not similar to someone over the limit saying they will go the speed limit and pay extra attention? It's not like a person can control where their airborn droplets go and what they might infect.

I've never seen someone argue "this is a free country and I'll drive after 5 beers if I want to!"

You can pry my beer bottle out of my cold dead hand after you pry my cold dead body out of the wreckage of my cold dead car.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If the flu puts you down for weeks it is not mild. Enough with the drama.

That's not what I said but you only go to the gym for the massage chairs and tanning beds anyway

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Getting a mild case of the flu can effect peooles performance for weeks. Rona is worse than the flu bud.

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

That's not what I said but you only go to the gym for the massage chairs and tanning beds anyway

It is EXACTLY what you said.....

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, for a city that's supposedly "shut down", it was sure busy as hell today.

I was in Burbank, North Hollywood, Sun Valley and Studio City from 10am to 3pm and while traffic wasn't as heavy as pre-C19, it was heavier than I'd seen in since early March. Costco wasn't "packed" at 10am but it wasn't exactly empty, either. They had ground beef but no fresh chicken, which sucks. The weird thing is that today, they had rotisserie chicken for the first time in probably a month. I was also able to buy Kirkland Toilet Paper and Napkins for the first time since February, which to me, is a good sign that production is beginning to catch up with demand.

The other stores, Vallarta, which is a Mexican grocery store in the valley and Ralphs, we're pretty darn packed with people. The checkout lines were longer than usual and it wasn't just because of Social Distancing, it's because there was a lot more people. Many of the shelves were still empty but even they had toilet paper on the rack for the first time since March.

Road construction in the valley was insane and new building construction was going on everywhere. Lake Hollywood was crowded yesterday as well but everywhere I went, people were following the law and wearing masks, so this is a step in the right direction for sure.

It's like that everywhere IMO. Based of this thread you would think everyone is SIP but in the real world shit is back to pretty much like it was before.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bowser

If you say so

I have never met anyone who said "I was down with a mild case of the flu for a few days so I haven't been to the gym in weeks".


You may have had the flu. And you may not have gone to the gym for weeks after. But it isn't because you had a "mild" case of the flu.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It's like that everywhere IMO. Based of this thread you would think everyone is SIP but in the real world shit is back to pretty much like it was before.

I mean other than I can't go to some of my favorite places because they are closed, sure!

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It's like that everywhere IMO. Based of this thread you would think everyone is SIP but in the real world shit is back to pretty much like it was before.

Well, I don't know if you've heard but LA's Lockdown is supposed to last until there's a vaccine or a "cure" and of course, there will never be a cure because to date, science hasn't been able to "cure" viruses.

Our SIP was extended until the end of July at the earliest and now there's news floating around that the state's budget has taken such a huge hit that the schools may not be able to re-open in the Fall.

There are groups suing the governor and I'm sure there will be groups suing the mayor of Los Angeles, so there is hope that this madness will end long before a vaccine has been tested and approved.

[limested]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Bad idea.

Will be fine...



Here are just a few many precautions we will be taking in Phase I of reopening:

No fevers. Every staff member and guest will receive temperature screening when they arrive. Anyone with fever or other symptoms will be asked to stay home.

Space to breathe. Our large facilities give us the room to space you out so you can do your workout with at least six full feet of social distance. We’re strategically blocking off equipment, limiting the size of group exercise classes, and requiring that members in the weight room only use every other machine.

Cleaner Air. We’ve invested heavily in cutting-edge, virus-eliminating technology, and have added advanced oxidation air purification systems to the busiest areas of every club. This reduces your risk by killing viruses and bacteria in the air and on surfaces all day long. Natural ionized advanced oxidizers are released directly into the air to purify oxygen and surfaces, so you can breathe easy.

Comprehensive Sanitization. We’ve added a Sanitization Specialist to each club, who disinfects and sanitizes throughout the day. We are also asking all personal trainers and members to sanitize before and after each equipment use. We’ve added more hand sanitizer, spray bottles, and other products to make sure every surface stays sanitized throughout the day.

Member Code of Conduct. All members will be asked to do their part by disinfecting before and after each equipment use, maintaining safe social distance, staying home when sick, and doing everything they can to protect those around them. Together, we’ll help stop the spread of this virus in our communities.

[jdubya]

I go to a very small gym and pre C19 i was vigilant to wipe down the equipment before and after I used it......thats when I was only concerned with MERSA.....My best hygiene has always been at the gym lol.