***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Dude, I don’t seriously think you’re a pussy. For all I know you could be an MMA fighter that happens to be a Chiefs fan

But I love to fight as well and don’t back down from anybody. Respect.

i'm not an mma fighter, although i had a buddy that ran a little spot in KC and i'd go throw hands with his heavyweights (a ufc fighter was his partner for a while, not a HW though) and i would go throw hands with them when they needed a sparring partner. i'm too ****ing old to roll around on the ground for fun anymore so i just put gloves on and let them work on their hands.

fun times.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

so opening back up doesnt seem to be hurting anyone........ How long yall think the rest hold out?

Dude, it’s early. Relax.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I didn’t say that...

i didnt ever think you would.



but you were. you read too much into my post

[TLO]

One last note here on Missouri in the midst of this arguing. By Saturday Missouri will have enough remdesivir to give to every person currently on a ventilator. Hopefully it has positive results.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Dude, it’s early. Relax.

Yeah Georgia has been this way for two weeks. Incubation period being what it is, there should have already shown a major spike.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by R Clark

How are you going to blame anyone on a plague? Real simple who do you sue when you catch a cold?

This is obviously not the same thing as a cold. Colds don't lead to hospitalizations and nobody is scrutinizing every sanitation practice for a common cold. Businesses are going to get sued by employees and customers. It's not a matter of if, it's when.

[Strongside]

No u

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

i'm not an mma fighter, although i had a buddy that ran a little spot in KC and i'd go throw hands with his heavyweights (a ufc fighter was his partner for a while, not a HW though) and i would go throw hands with them when they needed a sparring partner. i'm too ****ing old to roll around on the ground for fun anymore so i just put gloves on and let them work on their hands.

fun times.

Yea I used to box a little just for fun and I’m naturally very good at it because I was an early fan of sport and I immediately knew how to use my length advantage, but I’ve never went all in and trained and I regret it sometimes, but probably saved myself a lot of unnecessary blows to the head.

However, in street fights a lot of guys see my length and go for the takedown but playing football I always understood leverage and played with some BIG boys so it’s never as easy as they think it’s going to be.

I’m definitely not the baddest mother ****er on the planet by any means, but I have balls and I know how to fight enough to have confidence in any situation provided I’m not severely outnumbered.

I’m also not an idiot and will try to talk down a fight if the situation calls for it.

[BleedingRed]

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...us-death-rate/
Under 65-year-old and healthy (0.06% IFR and 0.01% CMR)
infection fatality rate: 0.06% (compared to 1.4% for the general population)

crude mortality rate: 0.01%, or 13 deaths per 100,000 population (compared to 0.28% and 279 deaths)

1 death every 7,912 people who belong to this group (compared to 1 death every 358 people)

[KCUnited]

Only piece missing from this thread is a good Zilla-ing

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

so opening back up doesnt seem to be hurting anyone........ How long yall think the rest hold out?

We need to wait about 12 more months just to be sure.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

We need to wait about 12 more months just to be sure.

See, I think it’s a little early for a victory lap, but I can see the humor in this.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by staylor26

See, I think it’s a little early for a victory lap, but I can see the humor in this.

I mean all the data that is coming out of Italy and other places is putting the mortality rate of this thing well below 1% (Pretty close to flu) if you are Sub 65 years old and healthy.

Just saying

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea I used to box a little just for fun and I’m naturally very good at it because I was an early fan of sport and I immediately knew how to use my length advantage, but I’ve never went all in and trained and I regret it sometimes, but probably saved myself a lot of unnecessary blows to the head.

However, in street fights a lot of guys see my length and go for the takedown but playing football I always understood leverage and played with some BIG boys so it’s never as easy as they think it’s going to be.

I’m definitely not the baddest mother ****er on the planet by any means, but I have balls and I know how to fight enough to have confidence in any situation provided I’m not severely outnumbered.

I’m also not an idiot and will try to talk down a fight if the situation calls for it.

I'd knock the virus out of you I love to be wild and violent

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'd knock the virus out of you I love to be wild and violent

Billay, you can’t fight.