***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

He can’t do it in the future as well? It’s now or never?

Why the **** is it so hard to say that maybe guys like Musk and Cuban both have their agendas? Why do we only have to believe that the people wanting to open up do?

This is where I get very frustrated. I’m in the middle on this issue, but both sides are so ****ing hard headed it is unbelievable.

i wasnt ****ing disagreeing with you.


just ****ing pointing something out.

[displacedinMN]

While Gov. Tim Walz has given the green light to Minnesota retailers to reopen on Monday, it will take days or weeks before some of them reopen as they call back furloughed employees and establish new safety protocols.

The Mall of America said today that it will reopen for shopping on June 1.

“This will allow us to continue creating the safest environment possible for our team members, tenants and guests,” the mall said in a statement. “It will also allow our diverse set of retail tenants the time needed to rehire, train staff and prepare their individual stores with necessary cleaning, sanitization and safety measure implementations.”

The mall added that the June 1 opening does not mean all the stores will be open on that date. It might take longer for some retailers to get everything in order. Also, in-person dining and attractions, such as Nickelodeon Universe, will remain closed until the state allows those types of businesses to reopen.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

i wasnt ****ing disagreeing with you.


just ****ing pointing something out.

How else was I supposed to interpret it? If you weren’t disagreeing you didn’t do a very good job of implying it. Sorry bud, but that’s on you.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

While Gov. Tim Walz has given the green light to Minnesota retailers to reopen on Monday, it will take days or weeks before some of them reopen as they call back furloughed employees and establish new safety protocols.

The Mall of America said today that it will reopen for shopping on June 1.

“This will allow us to continue creating the safest environment possible for our team members, tenants and guests,” the mall said in a statement. “It will also allow our diverse set of retail tenants the time needed to rehire, train staff and prepare their individual stores with necessary cleaning, sanitization and safety measure implementations.”

The mall added that the June 1 opening does not mean all the stores will be open on that date. It might take longer for some retailers to get everything in order. Also, in-person dining and attractions, such as Nickelodeon Universe, will remain closed until the state allows those types of businesses to reopen.

The biggest mall in Austin Texas opened two weekends ago and hardly anyone went shopping. Mall's were already on their death knell...this is just another nail in the coffin

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

The biggest mall in Austin Texas opened two weekends ago and hardly anyone went shopping. Mall's were already on their death knell...this is just another nail in the coffin

Thinking it will be the same here. Few will go until this is under control

[TLO]

MO DHSS Numbers Yesterday

Cases in Missouri: 10,142

Total Deaths: 542

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 126,935

MO DHSS Numbers Today

Cases in Missouri 10,317

Total Deaths: 562

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 126,935 (not yet updated for 5/14/20)

[TLO]

It looks as though we are approximately o on track for a similar day in terms of total deaths today, according to Worldomoters.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

How else was I supposed to interpret it? If you weren’t disagreeing you didn’t do a very good job of implying it. Sorry bud, but that’s on you.

pointing out he said he might run this year is disagreeing?



you're a dumb ****.

[chiefzilla1501]

What remains to be seen is what the legal environment will look like after we open up. With the US being so litigious I just hope we're not sending businesses and employees out for slaughter. What happens when customers and employees get coronavirus or clusters? How responsible is the business going to be? Will employees be able to get the right care if they get sick considering many are now "obligated" to work again? I'm all for opening the economy back up but I just hope those that do are taken care of. Part of me feels like some of this is punting off responsibility if anything goes wrong.

[Strongside]

In a time when it feels like a lot of the world is looking out for one another, all I need to do is check this thread to see that, deep down, we all still ****ing hate each other.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What remains to be seen is what the legal environment will look like after we open up. With the US being so litigious I just hope we're not sending businesses and employees out for slaughter. What happens when customers and employees get coronavirus or clusters? How responsible is the business going to be? Will employees be able to get the right care if they get sick considering many are now "obligated" to work again? I'm all for opening the economy back up but I just hope those that do are taken care of. Part of me feels like some of this is punting off responsibility if anything goes wrong.

How are you going to blame anyone on a plague? Real simple who do you sue when you catch a cold?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

pointing out he said he might run this year is disagreeing?



you're a dumb ****.

Ha, I’m a dumb **** now?

You were clearly trying to disprove my point that he has an agenda due to a desire to possibly run for President some day because it’s too late to run this year. Then you backtracked.

Go **** yourself though and don’t send my a PM this time trying to kiss ass after pussy. Remember you went their first.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Ha, I’m a dumb ****?

You were clearly trying to disprove my point that he has an agenda due to a desire to possibly run for President some day because it’s too late to run this year. Then you backtracked.

Go **** yourself though and don’t send my a PM this time trying to kiss ass after pussy.

I was just pointing out what he said about this year. not trying to disprove anything.


then was legit wondering if it was too late because i dont know.
none of that disputes the fact he might run some other year.
no backtrack there. i'm guessing your dumb ass is just too stupid to understand.


you're just a bitch ass mother****er that likes to look for an argument.


suck a dick

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I was just pointing out what he said about this year. not trying to disprove anything.


then was legit wondering if it was too late because i dont know.
none of that disputes the fact he might run some other year.
no backtrack there. i'm guessing your dumb ass is just too stupid to understand.


you're just a bitch ass mother****er that likes to look for an argument.


suck a dick

Oh I like to look for an argument? And I guess you’re just the nicest most agreeable guy on CP. Strange how you’re always arguing with somebody still. At least I’ll actually acknowledge that I like to argue.

Have a nice day pussy.

[Titty Meat]