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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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07-07-2021, 10:16 AM | #30736 | |
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Yeah im gonna go ahead and say that i've seen your takes and don't give a damn what you think about their "tape". Beating your chest on Trey Lance who hasn't played a snap? Saying shit like Allen is more scheme dependent than Murray is ****ing hilarious. Allen IS there scheme. Meanwhile, Murray plays in one of the simplest schemes in the league. Baltimore and KC both run game plan specific schemes and are widely known amongst pundits for having some of the most unique blitz packages in the league. You calling them "Simple man" is quite evident on how little you know. Those are the defenses, including NE, that young QB's will find most challenging as they're constantly giving different looks in the secondary. |
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07-07-2021, 10:20 AM | #30737 | |
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Also, his offense is widely criticized for being limited. Which begs the question, is the offense limited because of coaching, or because of the QB's current capacity? |
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07-07-2021, 10:36 AM | #30738 | |
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And Allen choked . KC did mix up looks, showing one thing, than another. But you still don't seem to understand why it worked (it wasn't a surprise, we showed the same thing in the regular season). |
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07-07-2021, 10:38 AM | #30739 | |
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Another 1980's dream. |
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07-07-2021, 10:41 AM | #30740 |
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07-07-2021, 10:51 AM | #30741 |
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Formations and player sets matter. You keep lining up in shotgun spread formations and NFL defenses, especially game-plan specific D's will shut you down.
Getting under center allows things such as Bootlegs, which would be killer for Murray. It also forces the defenses to play up, makes the play action pass more effective. It also allows for more misdirection when the ball as snapped as the defenders can't easily locate the ball. Even ****ing Lamar Jackson takes snaps from center. It revitalized Mayfield's career as he transitioned into a Bootleg Qb last season. But yes, keep telling us how snapping from under center is archaic . Snapping from center has been a core component in almost every legit offense in the league you idiot. I don't mind that you keep showing your ignorance. Last edited by ToxSocks; 07-07-2021 at 10:59 AM.. |
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07-07-2021, 10:57 AM | #30742 |
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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread***** *****THE PATRICK MAHOMES THREAD***** |
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07-07-2021, 11:15 AM | #30743 | |
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This template was also the reason Mahomes was not considered generational and Trevor Lawrence was. Of course Lawrence was running a college spread offense but the dinosaurs didn't care about that detail because he is so Tall! How dreamy. |
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07-07-2021, 11:25 AM | #30744 | |
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Mahomes ran for 308 yards @ 6-3" 240 Herbert ran for 234 @ 6-6" 240 1980's west coast template? Montana was 6-2" 205lbs. West coast isn't about standing in the pocket and striking downfield, it's about quick slants, getting the ball out quickly and a quick rhythmic passing game with small, light linemen. Get out of here you have no idea what you're talking about. You can't even get something as simple as that right and we're suppose to trust your evaluations of "tape". Holy shit. |
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07-07-2021, 11:29 AM | #30745 |
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Cam Newton: 592 rushing yards @ 6-5" 245lbs
Daniel Jones: 423 rushing yards @ 6-5" 220lbs Mahomesmagic: "Big QB's aren't in vogue. They're a thing of the 80's and can't play in today's NFL" |
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07-07-2021, 11:34 AM | #30746 | |
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Keep regurgitating Kiper bs and I'll enjoy taking from suckers like you in fantasy and gambling. And with that I'm out until Mahomes discussions come back. |
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07-07-2021, 11:38 AM | #30747 | |
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I just showed you a list of big Qb's who can run in today's NFL, including our own Mahomes, who, yes, is a ****ing big dude @ 6-3" 240lbs. We're not discussing 80's-90's Robot QB's. Some of today's best QB's are big dudes that move really well. Again, you just don't know what you're talking about. |
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07-07-2021, 12:10 PM | #30748 | |
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That play makes me laugh every time I think about it. |
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07-07-2021, 12:20 PM | #30749 | |
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As for size, I am not against tall or big QB's. If everything else is the same, sure give me the bigger player. But modern NFL offense I take a guy that runs a 4.3 over a few inches in height because of the supposed great vision height provides. Height is a trait, just not as important as overall athleticism, throwing with anticipation, spatial awareness, off-platform throws. Now the one thing I can say that SNR touched on was just being 6'6'' or 6'7'' doesn't seem to be the sweet spot or ideal. I think it is because it is harder to control those longer levers. There is more of a clumsiness to some of the super tall players vs the guys that are 6'2'' or 6'3''. Favre, Rodgers, Mahomes are the top off-platform throwers of the last few decades and none were 6'4''. |
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07-07-2021, 12:22 PM | #30750 | |
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