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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Baltimore
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Just as awesome; The power tosses to DW gave me the chills! Then again inside ! Let him pound it Great game plan. |
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#3047 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Throw it all over the yard in the first three quarters then salt it away in the fourth with the run.
The offense in 2021 is the best it’s been since Mahomes got here. If they wouldn’t have turned it over like dumb jackasses, they’d be averaging, not scoring occasionally, ****ing averaging 40 points and be sitting at 4-0. |
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#3048 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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And that's definitely been a problem for a few years. We just don't have enough size (it was especially obvious when Watkins was hurt). Hill can do some amazing stuff in a phone-booth to create space, but when you're in the red zone and there's less grass to cover, you need a guy who can just go get the football and present a big target. That forces teams to be more aware of the shorter zones. Obviously Kelce is Plan A there, but there's not much of a plan B apart from those RPO actions that can sometimes free Hill up off the line. A healthy Watkins was huge in that regard and Gordon very well could be. As for the rest - again, short-yardage rushing is more about your OL. The biggest problem last year in the red zone and short yardage run game was an OL that just couldn't get any push. This line is a much different animal and Clyde can absolutely take advantage of it. |
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#3049 | |
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
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The Chiefs cut through that defense, generally, like a hot knife through butter. The 3 early turnovers changed the entire course of the game. If Kemp catches the ball and scores (like he should have) and the uncharacteristic fumbles by Hill and CEH don't happen, you're adding at least 13 points to the board for KC. The game is likely 10-0, possibly 14-0, entering the second quarter, in KC's favor, and the Chiefs having gained around 150 yards. When CEH fumble occurs, they were in FG range and facing 2nd and 7. That's likely at least 3 more points, which makes it 17-6 at that point. Here's how the rest of the scoring would have progressed from that point: 17-14 after Chargers TD + 2 PC 20-14 after Chiefs FG Halftime 27-14 after Chiefs opening TD drive 34-14 after Chiefs force punt and get ball back and score TD 34-21 after Chargers TD at start of 4th 41-21 after Chiefs TD with 6:43 left on the clock That game was a blowout in disguise. People just aren't seeing it. |
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#3050 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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Nothing has so much has slowed this offense down apart from shooting itself in the foot. "We need someone who can keep teams honest to prevent them from locking down Kelce and Hill..." Who's done that? So far the only teams that have been able to so much as lock one of them down have then been gouged by the other one. The only way to slow down Hill and Kelce is to harass Mahomes and the changes on the OL have made that MUCH more difficult. The offense is excellent as presently constructed. There's no need to go out there making things easier for the opposition by focusing on a less efficient, less productive way of moving the football. |
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#3051 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Hope they go full chargers and fumble it away? That’s about your best bet. |
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#3052 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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Its just like the last 2 years. If our defense is AT LEAST middle of the road, we're Super Bowl contenders. |
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#3053 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Now, a lot of that has to do with the OL, but this fantasy that we were way better with Hunt is just that. |
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#3054 |
Has a particular set of skills
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
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#3055 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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Will Mahomes get to a point where he's willing to throw a ball to Gordon when he's not conventionally 'open' with the belief that he'll go get the ball? And I don't mean the sort of 'throw him open' thing he does with Hill and Kelce. I mean the sort of "that guy has 2 people draped on him but I'm pretty sure he can catch it anyway" kind of thing that Cassel did with Bowe because he just didn't have a plan B. Because I don't expect that Gordon's going to go out there blazing past people or breaking open on triple moves. He's gonna have to use his body and his length to take balls away from guys. Will Mahomes use him that way when his entire time in this offense hasn't really been geared for it? |
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#3056 | |
I'll be back.
Join Date: Nov 2002
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When you're on the 10 yard line I want to be able to run a toss or stretch and a RB have enough burst to beat a guy to the pylon. CEH doesn't have that burst. Damien DID. He scored a TD in the AFCCG to give us a 2-score lead just like this. We're going to come up against a team who's coverage is good enough to shut our receivers down in the red zone. When that happens I would really like this team to have the ability to just get down their and force our will on the opponent. Better blocking helps of course, but I do think having a faster RB would help immensely. I'd like to see them run some designed plays where Hardman motions into the RB spot and gets the ball. You can build off that by faking it to him and letting him run circle routes out of the backfield. |
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#3057 | |
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
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But we also don't have the OL designed for that sort of approach. You still need someone that can curl and get a seal block in there. Or some really difficult reach block. Or a pulling G or something along those lines. Your OL has to be extremely athletic in space for those kinds of plays to work from that far out. Ours just isn't that kind of OL. And to my eyes we intentionally got away from that when we moved on from more mobile guys like Fisher, Wylie and Schwartz and replaced them with straight up maulers like Brown, Niang and Smith. The only RBs that could house one from 10 yards out by simply sprinting to the pylon are generationally fast guys - the CJ2K sorts. That's just not a reasonable expectation. No, Damien Williams wasn't just outrunning guys 10 yards past the LOS and blowing angles apart. He had athletic blockers that could get him that edge and then he could outrun a MLB. For most guys they need blockers that can get 1 or 2 key blocks in space. Our line's just not built for that. |
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#3058 | |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Don’t ask him to, run straight ahead Problem solved |
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#3059 | |
M-I-Z-Z-O-U
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Kansas City
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And I also like the idea of using the jet sweep/pop pass threat action in the red zone to force defenses to defend horizontally. Should improve success rate in running the ball inside in tighter situations as well. |
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#3060 |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Who knows?
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Chiefs are about to be in the top 5 for rushing yards, and it's not because they upgraded the RB position.......
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