***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Monticore

There are people higher up than him that have flip flopped since the beginning.

Touche'!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I think asymptomatic spread was the main reason for the change and also what they were doing initially wasn’t working so they modified it.

Also the fear of hoarding which would have made it hard for hospitals to acquire them. My wife is still having a hard time getting N95 and prices have tripled if not more.

Who the **** would downvote this?

FFS.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Who the **** would downvote this?

FFS.

Lol it wasn’t a regular, I’m pissing off people I have never heard of.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Fauci says mask are useless!

Thanks, Fauci for totally backing up my previous post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUY...sVg16gjreQqIzA

That was actually an interview from March but yes.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Greta Thunberg? WTF? CNN is a joke.

Seems like a bad call for sure.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Seems like a bad call for sure.

Ya think?

[Marcellus]

BTW I found out they have drive through testing in Joplin Mo so if they have it here already it should be fairly widely available.

First responders and medical personnel can get tested anytime they want and anyone with symptoms can fill out a form and go get tested. Free of charge.

Been available for a while I guess but hardly anyone knew.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Because he is an unelected official who apparently has had significant input on issuing recommendations that have led to draconian restrictions on business operations and the personal freedoms of law abiding citizens.

And Fauci is a hypocrite... he is only willing to do a “modified” self-quarantine after he was directly exposed to people in the White House who tested positive for COVID-19.

Would he recommend a similar “modified” self-quarantine to other 79 year olds who have been exposed to a positive case of the virus?

Wait....what?

[jdubya]

The video I watched of Fauci claiming no need for masks was when he was on 60 minutes. Basically he said only EMS and hospital providers should wear them unless a patient was symptomatic then they should wear one. He didnt think they would do any good for asymptomatic people but said it wouldnt do harm either. He said it was likely more for the psychological benefit of the wearer than anything else. His last statement in the interview he also stated that masks should be saved for hospital staff and a public run for masks would be detrimental to that.

I am not a Fauci fan or hater but I think he has been a bearucrat for 30 years more than an immunologist. However he has forgotten more in 1 day about immunology than I will ever know in my life so I understand my opinion of him is quite useless.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DaFace

None of this is true, but you don't seem to care about that.

What is not true? Fauci, just 2 months ago giving this interview? Smugly laughing and basically calling mask a placebo.

People questioning his credibility after flip-flopping on key issues?

Or was it the part where I said a majority of people in public are still not wearing a mask? Around the KC area and specifically my town- I have not seen an increase in people wearing masks. I was not speaking for the entire world.

Or maybe when I posted that people have a high chance of cross-contaminating their own mask- which was confirmed by Fauci in this video.

[Kidd Lex]

**** I hate the argument loving bitches bringing your straw man bullshit into this thread. I don’t give two shits anyone’s opinion on Fauci, Trump, or anyone else for that matter. Let’s discuss the novel Coronavirus science and leave all the other bs in DC.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Who the **** would downvote this?

FFS.

You know who

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Wait....what?

I did find it weird that someone hired based on their credentials has less credibility than someone who won a popularity contest in the field of medicine.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You know who

Wasn’t any of the guys in here .

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Wasn’t any of the guys in here .

We have some "lurkers" if you will....