***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Why can't we do this again? China is going to test all 11 million people in Wuhan.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ockdown-lifted

Well here you go....

1. Shut down all travel. Period. All travel.
2. Call in the military
3. Have them yank everyone out of their home
4. Test them
5. Mark the positives and send them off to some type of camp
6. Send them negatives back inside
7. Don't let anyone out until all the 347 million people have been tested


Simple

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Why can't we do this again? China is going to test all 11 million people in Wuhan.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ockdown-lifted

Be interesting what numbers the CCP makes them.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You know what makes all this better...I have a gas leak, so I get to spend my day dealing with that.

Meh, don't feel bad. I just had a hard drive crash and haven't backed it up for a month. Not the end of the world but a pain in the ass nonetheless. Yours is obviously much worse than mine.

[Donger]

Unreleased White House report shows coronavirus rates spiking in heartland communities (by @jonallendc, @PhilMcCausland, and @cfarivar)https://t.co/xx3y688czN pic.twitter.com/dfRm1rKf4v

— Cyrus Farivar (@cfarivar) May 11, 2020

I thought this was worth posting. Please note that the linked article is inherently political, so please refrain from getting into that, and focus on the data. The link is also posted in the DC thread, so if that's your thing, have at it there, please:

Coronavirus infection rates are spiking to new highs in several metropolitan areas and smaller communities across the country, according to undisclosed data the White House's pandemic task force is using to track rates of infection, which was obtained by NBC News.

The 10 top areas recorded surges of 72.4 percent or greater over a seven-day period compared to the previous week, according to a set of tables produced for the task force by its data and analytics unit. They include Nashville, Tennessee; Des Moines, Iowa; Amarillo, Texas; and — atop the list, with a 650 percent increase — Central City, Kentucky.

On a separate list of "locations to watch," which didn't meet the precise criteria for the first set: Charlotte, North Carolina; Kansas City, Missouri; Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska; Minneapolis; Montgomery, Alabama; Columbus, Ohio; and Phoenix. The rates of new cases in Charlotte and Kansas City represented increases of more than 200 percent over the previous week, and other tables included in the data show clusters in neighboring counties that don't form geographic areas on their own, such as Wisconsin's Kenosha and Racine counties, which neighbor each other between Chicago and Milwaukee.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Unreleased White House report shows coronavirus rates spiking in heartland communities (by @jonallendc, @PhilMcCausland, and @cfarivar)https://t.co/xx3y688czN pic.twitter.com/dfRm1rKf4v

— Cyrus Farivar (@cfarivar) May 11, 2020

I thought this was worth posting. Please note that the linked article is inherently political, so please refrain from getting into that, and focus on the data. The link is also posted in the DC thread, so if that's your thing, have at it there, please:

Coronavirus infection rates are spiking to new highs in several metropolitan areas and smaller communities across the country, according to undisclosed data the White House's pandemic task force is using to track rates of infection, which was obtained by NBC News.

The 10 top areas recorded surges of 72.4 percent or greater over a seven-day period compared to the previous week, according to a set of tables produced for the task force by its data and analytics unit. They include Nashville, Tennessee; Des Moines, Iowa; Amarillo, Texas; and — atop the list, with a 650 percent increase — Central City, Kentucky.

On a separate list of "locations to watch," which didn't meet the precise criteria for the first set: Charlotte, North Carolina; Kansas City, Missouri; Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska; Minneapolis; Montgomery, Alabama; Columbus, Ohio; and Phoenix. The rates of new cases in Charlotte and Kansas City represented increases of more than 200 percent over the previous week, and other tables included in the data show clusters in neighboring counties that don't form geographic areas on their own, such as Wisconsin's Kenosha and Racine counties, which neighbor each other between Chicago and Milwaukee.

Yeah it was already posted last night....

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah it was already posted last night....

Oh, in this thread?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well here you go....

1. Shut down all travel. Period. All travel.
2. Call in the military
3. Have them yank everyone out of their home
4. Test them
5. Mark the positives and send them off to some type of camp
6. Send them negatives back inside
7. Don't let anyone out until all the 347 million people have been tested


Simple

Logistics aside it is more about how they are able to test 11 million in 1 city which is more than we have tested in the entire country to date.

That is how woefully behind we are.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Oh, in this thread?

Yes.

Buchanan County, (where Triumph Foods is located,) as well as Kansas City are on the list. The 400+ workers who tested positive from the plant were primarily from KC and Buchanan County.

That's my theory for why they are on the list.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

Yes.

Buchanan County, (where Triumph Foods is located,) as well as Kansas City are on the list. The 400+ workers who tested positive from the plant were primarily from KC and Buchanan County.

That's my theory for why they are on the list.

Well, that's what I get for tuning out...

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Donger

Well, that's what I get for tuning out...

Na. It's a fast moving thread. I, for one, appreciate the Q as I too have not seen that.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Well, that's what I get for tuning out...

I can't say for certain that the rise in KC is due to Triumph, but I'm 100% certain that's why Buchanan is on the list. We were holding around 50 cases until Triumph blew up.

I imagine some of the numbers from KC are due to Triumph, some due to other factors.

[TLO]

We're on track for a higher death toll today according to Worldomoters.

[OnTheWarpath15]

LA County 'with all certainty' extending stay at home order through JULY per the LA Times.

Breaking: Los Angeles County’s stay-at-home orders will “with all certainty” be extended for the next three months, Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer acknowledged during a Board of Supervisors meeting on Tuesday https://t.co/jswRcZ5FkS

— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) May 12, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

LA County 'all but certain' to extend stay at home order through JULY per the LA Times.

Wow.. that's a long time

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

You either do understand why per capita (not total number) of tests is the only number that truly matters, or you don't.

Cool we have tested 3x more people per million than South Korea