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08-27-2019, 04:23 PM | #2 | |
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Their grades are not the same thing. Do you get that? Or do I have to repeat it for third time? |
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08-27-2019, 04:29 PM | #3 | |
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You're attempting to dismiss a holistic grade a subjective and thus not worthy of consideration while holding up a raw figure that tells only part of the story as completely unassailable. That's clearly drawing a conclusion and then arguing from the conclusion rather than engaging in a reasoned debate. Especially when you say "I know, I've seen it" and act ads though your clearly subjective opinion is entitled weight while PFFs is not. |
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08-27-2019, 04:33 PM | #4 | |
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Clark is more reliable and more productive. That was my point from the beginning. He’s the better player. Period. |
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08-27-2019, 04:47 PM | #5 | |
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You can make a fair argument for better rusher. Probably. There is NO argument for better player. Period. You have to just completely reject reality and substitute your own to disregard Clowney being a superior run defender. He just is - dudes a monster against the run and for a fanbase holding out Clark's generally above average run defense as elite because he's not Dee Ford, it sure is odd to see Clowney's demonstrable superiority there being hand-waived... |
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08-27-2019, 04:26 PM | #6 |
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It's all being viewed and published through their eyes, which you call a trash source.
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08-27-2019, 04:28 PM | #7 |
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08-27-2019, 04:30 PM | #8 |
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08-27-2019, 04:36 PM | #9 |
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I’m not waffling. I’ve been very clear about it, but you’re choosing to ignore what I’m saying and playing stupid.
I posted a PFF article because it made a good point about his production inside vs. out (along with the injury stuff), which is objective. It could’ve been from anywhere and it’s no more/less true. That doesn’t mean I’m contradicting myself by choosing to ignore their subjective grading system. |
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08-27-2019, 04:30 PM | #10 |
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08-27-2019, 04:33 PM | #11 |
The man you could post like.
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Jesus ****ing Christ. They're BOTH good players. There. Debate settled.
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08-27-2019, 04:42 PM | #12 |
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Who the **** cares. We got an elite pass rusher that can defend the run.
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08-27-2019, 04:55 PM | #13 |
Needs more middle fingers
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08-27-2019, 04:43 PM | #14 |
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There aren't even any stats showing how more productive he was outside vs. in. You say they wrote those words and took them to heart, but when DJ posted numbers you lost your goddamn mind
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08-27-2019, 04:45 PM | #15 | |
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And no, I didn’t “take them to heart”. It was something I already knew to be true and have seen for myself and heard from places other than PFF. Have you ever watched Clowney? Were you unaware of this? Last edited by staylor26; 08-27-2019 at 05:11 PM.. |
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