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Old 12-02-2020, 12:00 PM  
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Emotional support animals will no longer be considered service animals on flights
Fair, and overdue, IMHO. My only concern is for military vets who need emo support animals for PTSD. Hopefully it will be made easy for them to get certified. No restrictions on breed, which is a little surprising.

Emotional support animals will no longer be considered service animals on flights, DOT decides

The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) has announced that emotional support animals will no longer be considered service animals on flights, updating its final rule on the controversial travel topic.

DOT shared the news in a Wednesday news release, explaining that the revision to the Air Carrier Access Act followed over 15,000 comments on the proposal, which was first pitched in January.

“The final rule announced today addresses concerns raised by individuals with disabilities, airlines, flight attendants, airports, other aviation transportation stakeholders, and other members of the public, regarding service animals on aircraft,” the agency said.

Now, the DOT will define a service animal as "a dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of a person with a disability.”

While the DOT "no longer considers an emotional support animal to be a service animal,” the department will require airlines to “treat psychiatric service animals the same as other service animals.”

Moving forward, the department is allowing airlines to require DOT-approved forms affirming a service animal's health, behavior and training before travel, and allowing carriers to cap the number of service animals traveling with a single passenger at two.

In addition, the DOT has given airlines the OK to require a service animal to fit within its handler’s foot space on the airplane, and mandate that the animal be harnessed, leashed, or tethered at all times on the plane and within the airport during the travel journey.

The DOT further supports a carrier’s agency in refusing transport to service animals acting aggressively, while barring airlines from refusing to transport a service animal based on breed.

The subject of emotional support and service animals on airplanes was a major travel news topic of 2018, after an emotional support peacock named Dexter and his owner were denied boarding on a United Airlines flight. Months later, a French bulldog died in the high skies after being accidentally placed into an overhead bin by a United Airlines flight attendant for the duration of the trip. From there, emotional support cats, squirrels and hamsters continued to make headlines and spark debate.

Various carriers have since tightened the leash on their respective rules regarding the transportation of both emotional support and service animals; the DOT’s latest update will be a game changer for policy.

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/dot-s...nimals-flights
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:35 PM   #16
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Yikes.

Taking a support animal away while you're up high in the sky has gotta be pretty rough
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:36 PM   #17
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That’s stupid what will I do without my doggy? I’m gonna go cry in my pillow.
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:37 PM   #18
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Privacy laws are very important in California so there may be a court battle on the horizon. I don't fly as much as I did pre-kids and while I'd see people, generally females, with tiny dogs in their carry-on bags or even purses, I'd never had or seen a problem with animals on flights.

My biggest issue with flying now will be obtaining a Read ID. I just can't freaking believe that to fly, I'll need to either renew my passport or take my birth certificate and Social Security card to the DMV to apply and pay for a Read ID, just to travel domestically.

It's a load of horseshit.
Yeah I don't like carrying my passport unless absolutely necessary.

I got my travel ID months ago, it's not bad at all. Even in your DMV you should be able to present documents online ahead of time then get a code to take in with you to finalize.
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:37 PM   #19
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That’s stupid what will I do without my doggy? I’m gonna go cry in my pillow.
hey, at least there's nothing saying you can't bring your pillow with you
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:39 PM   #20
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I know more people than I care to admit who do exactly that. To the point where if you fly commercial it's a negative status mark to fly without one. Yes, they are all women. They get the forms from a Psych doc, aren't patients of, and pay once a year to renew.

Hopefully these new requirements will curb a lot of those loopholes:

Now, the DOT will define a service animal as "a dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of a person with a disability.”

The department is allowing airlines to require DOT-approved forms affirming a service animal's health, behavior and training before travel,
That's just for flights though.

I see it everywhere. We had a church get together and one of the attendees has a daughter with emotional issues. They brought a huge German shepherd to the gathering and it was growling at people and getting into peoples food.

But you can't say anything because they'll just sue you.
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:41 PM   #21
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In addition, the DOT has given airlines the OK to require a service animal to fit within its handler’s foot space on the airplane
If I needed an emotional support animal, I'd probably go without one on the flight if that meant having a 120 lb German Shepherd between my legs or on my lap for multiple hours
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:42 PM   #22
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There goes taking my emotional support whale with me
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:42 PM   #23
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Yeah I don't like carrying my passport unless absolutely necessary.

I got my travel ID months ago, it's not bad at all. Even in your DMV you should be able to present documents online ahead of time then get a code to take in with you to finalize.
I haven't applied for mine yet because I allowed my passport to expire a few years back, so it's probably going to be a hassle. My wife applied and it took about 2 months for hers to arrive.

I just hate dealing the with the DMV here in LA and unfortunately, I'll need to get the Real ID before my next expiration date. I should probably jump on it soon, just in case of emergency.

Thanks for the info!
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:43 PM   #24
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My wife is my emotional support animal. Free airfare.
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:48 PM   #25
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What about my emotional support gimp?

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I had a 5 hour flight to Seattle and had the misfortune of sitting in the same row as a Emotional Support Golden Retreiver.

Can you imagine? This sweet, loving dog resting its cute face on your knee? And nuzzling you for attention? And you just... have to pet it.

Just kidding it was the best flight of my life and I loved every minute of it. I often wonder what Hank the Golden is up to these days.
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:50 PM   #27
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:56 PM   #28
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What about emotional support midgets? I think they make more sense than animals. And they must need work.
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Goddamnit. If i can't take my emotional support Gold Fish then **** them, i aint flying.

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