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Old 09-28-2024, 11:20 AM  
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Why Mahomes isn’t the only answer to KC’s passing problems
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https://amp.kansas.com/sports/nfl/ka...293108649.html
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Old 09-28-2024, 02:15 PM   #16
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The only thing WRONG with the offense is execution.

There are big plays there multiple times per game. We're not executing. This isn't like last year, when nobody could get open and Toney's popping it up for pick sixes. This is just simply NOT hitting open big plays.
Yep.
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Old 09-28-2024, 02:15 PM   #17
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Kansas City has run the football on first down 55.4% of the time through three weeks. The average of Mahomes’ initial six seasons is 46.4%.

Gross.
I would've bet that we ran 80 percent of the time on first down. But maybe I'm thinking of second and long.
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Old 09-28-2024, 02:18 PM   #18
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I totally agree. We are in the same spot as the Bills - nobody is going to let these QBs beat them. We need to dish out more big running plays and make them pay.
Yeah.

I don't think some people get that when you drop seven with two deep safeties, you're clogging the throwing lanes in the middle, you're covering deep...the only answers to beat that are to RUN THE BALL, and the passes to the back in the flats. Because of Kelce, you MIGHT get a 1 on 1 for a WR on a deep out or something. If you can block that long.

If you can run well, you may catch someone flat footed and get a 1 on 1 opportunity deep in play-action.

And that's it. That's how you beat that defense. It's not rocket science.

They KNOW Reid doesn't want to do that. They KNOW Mahomes sure as hell doesn't want to do that.

But they have to. It's just that simple.
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Old 09-28-2024, 02:24 PM   #19
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I totally agree. We are in the same spot as the Bills - nobody is going to let these QBs beat them. We need to dish out more big running plays and make them pay.
The article indicates the Chiefs are down to 17th in the league in the frequency of opposing defenses using light boxes… yet that still is not translating yet into more production in the downfield passing game.
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Old 09-28-2024, 02:29 PM   #20
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Yeah.

I don't think some people get that when you drop seven with two deep safeties, you're clogging the throwing lanes in the middle, you're covering deep...the only answers to beat that are to RUN THE BALL, and the passes to the back in the flats. Because of Kelce, you MIGHT get a 1 on 1 for a WR on a deep out or something. If you can block that long.

If you can run well, you may catch someone flat footed and get a 1 on 1 opportunity deep in play-action.

And that's it. That's how you beat that defense. It's not rocket science.

They KNOW Reid doesn't want to do that. They KNOW Mahomes sure as hell doesn't want to do that.

But they have to. It's just that simple.
In time, Mahomes can settle into that style of play, as uncomfortable as it is for him. It happened last year and he skated through the postseason.

There are opportunities to break things open in the passing game, but two weaknesses are preventing it. The first is a complete lack of game breaking RB play. Even when Pacheco is healthy, we’re missing a home run hitter. The second is the left side of the line. When the defense actually does break out of the 2-deep, 4 rusher look, the left side struggles mightily in picking up an extra rusher. You see receivers breaking free on a majority of blitzes, but the line can’t pick it up and Mahomes quickly bails into a run or check down.
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The article indicates the Chiefs are down to 17th in the league in the frequency of opposing defenses using light boxes… yet that still is not translating yet into more production in the downfield passing game.
It will once Mahomes sorts it out.
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Old 09-28-2024, 02:34 PM   #22
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The article indicates the Chiefs are down to 17th in the league in the frequency of opposing defenses using light boxes… yet that still is not translating yet into more production in the downfield passing game.
I don't think that's true unless the Baltimore game is skewing the percentage. That could be. I certainly don't think that is the case in the last two games. I haven't watched all 22.

Someone's article is wrong.
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Old 09-28-2024, 02:48 PM   #23
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Reads accurate but doesn't explain why the offense isn't going over the top a little more often since opposing defenses are playing so tight.

This week's opponent and division rival who's only 1 game behind us is ranked 6th in the NFL in running defense in their own house.

Gots me the heebee jeebees for this game.
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Old 09-28-2024, 03:27 PM   #25
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He's been off. Missing reads, ugly picks, some head scratching accuracy at times. Am I worried? No.

-Hollywood was a big loss
-Worthy is getting his feet wet like Rice last year.
-Costly penalties and play from our young LT's.

It's fixable, KC re-invents itself annually. It's the Patriot formula and we're 3-0.

We're good.
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They need more explosive runs, running the ball the way they have this season is not producing efficient offense. Whenever Andy tries to go run heavy it never really ends with many points.
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The article is right. We are running more. And we even did it when Pacheco got placed by Steeles. But that doesn’t address the point that Mahomes is not playing up to his normal elite best in the league standard. I’m sure he will return to that again. But right now he’s missing passes that He wouldn’t normally miss, and making some bad calls and throws that have led to an unusual amount of interceptions. Neither of these have anything to do with the fact we are running more.
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What? That kind of hurts, man, what'd I do to you????
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Reads accurate but doesn't explain why the offense isn't going over the top a little more often since opposing defenses are playing so tight.

This week's opponent and division rival who's only 1 game behind us is ranked 6th in the NFL in running defense in their own house.

Gots me the heebee jeebees for this game.
It's not so much that playing "tight", it's that they're dropping the backers out. Safeties are two deep. So you have seven guys spread out in coverage.

Now, there have been opportunities anyway -and we've just been missing them through bad execution.

But running the ball is a big part of the blueprint to beat this style of defense.

If we were executing better, we'd be scoring 30 a game like the Bills have and we're having a different conversation entirely.

This is just my opinion.
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