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Old 12-27-2018, 06:11 PM   #2
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Preston Smith would make a nice replacement for Houston if they stick with a 3-4 and should be half the price. Food for thought.

I've been a staunch defender of Houston for some time now, but seeing him quit on that play last week was the last straw for me. Trade him for whatever you can get for him. I put a 4th and swap of 6th's in my mock. I don't see them getting much more than that to be honest. Maybe a 3rd. Surely not a 2nd.
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Old 12-27-2018, 06:16 PM   #3
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Preston Smith would make a nice replacement for Houston if they stick with a 3-4 and should be half the price. Food for thought.

I've been a staunch defender of Houston for some time now, but seeing him quit on that play last week was the last straw for me. Trade him for whatever you can get for him. I put a 4th and swap of 6th's in my mock. I don't see them getting much more than that to be honest. Maybe a 3rd. Surely not a 2nd.
Which play?

Houston did a lot of contain stuff last week because Russell Wilson is Russell Wilson. He just kind of strafed the LOS when Wilson would roll or slide toward him.
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Old 12-27-2018, 06:32 PM   #4
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Which play?

Houston did a lot of contain stuff last week because Russell Wilson is Russell Wilson. He just kind of strafed the LOS when Wilson would roll or slide toward him.
I was on a TD run by the RB. Later in the game iirc. Pretty sure someone also posted a video of it in the Lounge but not sure. He basically stopped playing and watched the guy run in when he was close enough to at least make an attempt at tackling him before he got to the end zone. It was a bullshit play on his behalf.
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:44 PM   #5
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Which play?

Houston did a lot of contain stuff last week because Russell Wilson is Russell Wilson. He just kind of strafed the LOS when Wilson would roll or slide toward him.
He's actually talking about the Seahawk's first TD of the game.

Houston fights through an OL. It's actually hilarious the ease with which Houston just throws this dude to the side, but unfortunately Houston ended up throwing the guy in the direction that the rusher was running so it effectively sealed him off from making the play..

But that wasn't a lack of effort. People just see what they want to see.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:29 PM   #6
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He's actually talking about the Seahawk's first TD of the game.

Houston fights through an OL. It's actually hilarious the ease with which Houston just throws this dude to the side, but unfortunately Houston ended up throwing the guy in the direction that the rusher was running so it effectively sealed him off from making the play..

But that wasn't a lack of effort. People just see what they want to see.
Bullshit. He had the tackle beat while Carson was still at the LOS and then didn't make any step towards the ball carrier. He stood there. The tackle was beyond him to the end zone side and not directly impeding his progrees. It was not a complete lack of effort, but he didn't close down the line like he should have to make the tackle. There was no reason the OT should have recovered more quickly than it would have taken Houston to step in and make the tackle, or at least an attempt at the tackle. It's a classic case of what is wrong with the entire defense. They may make the play to get into a good position to close but then they just stop and wait as if the ball carrier will come to them. I'm tired of watching it.
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Old 12-27-2018, 10:43 PM   #7
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Old 12-28-2018, 08:41 PM   #8
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I have always liked Houston a lot- but he was clearly dogging it on Several plays vs. the Seahags. That is unacceptable. If he does not show up the next 2 games, they should cut ties with him. Berry, and Watkins as well. Take the massive dead money hit now, so in a few years, we can actually build a team around Mahomes instead of a bunch of overpaid bench warmers. These are the worst contracts on the books.
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Old 12-30-2018, 04:17 PM   #9
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Houston making plays like that is what we need in order for him to stick around.
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Old 12-30-2018, 05:43 PM   #10
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Houston making plays like that is what we need in order for him to stick around.
That's why I'm OK with keeping him. Obviously he's not the same guy who recorded 22 sacks a handful of years ago, but assuming full health he's clearly a guy who can give us 10-15 QB takedowns a year.

And what's hilarious is that he actually has more FFs this season on only 9 sacks than he did the season in which he had 22. He's added another element to his game.

The guy's still got value. He's clearly overpaid but we've got cap room and I'm really not a fan of overpaying for FA help.
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Old 12-30-2018, 06:05 PM   #11
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Houston definitely stepped up his game today.

The decision for 2019 is only one. Keep or cut. The likely decision will be to keep. You don't want to extend/restructure in 2019, I don't think that comes into play. That decision will be for 2020 where it then becomes extend/restructure or cut. If he continues the level of play he's at now, then the extend/restructure option becomes a good one. That all said, so long as there aren't any half-assed efforts going forward. I've seen Houston be one of few giving an all-out effort. What bothered me most was to see him not give full effort, even once. That disease cannot trickle down the team's best players and biggest leaders.

At this juncture, I consider the state of the defense as a keep Houston and Ford and cut ties with Berry situation. Berry just has to go. You can't run a team keeping guys that can't play around, especially ones on big contracts. Keep that defensive front intact as much as possible and go out and get some DBs that can play in the NFL.
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I agree. Ford/Houston/Jones is such a deadly trio. It’d be nice to keep it together another year.
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Make or break time now. He has a pretty nasty habit of going MIA in playoff games. Time to buck the trend.
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Make or break time now. He has a pretty nasty habit of going MIA in playoff games. Time to buck the trend.
That's literally our entire roster in some form or another lol

Can't cut everyone.
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That's literally our entire roster in some form or another lol

Can't cut everyone.
No, but do you cut the guy making 700k or the guy making 20+ million.
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