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View Poll Results: What do the Chiefs accomplish the next 6 years?
No Super Bowl appearances or wins 0 0%
1 Super Bowl appearance, no SB win 1 0.76%
1 SB appearance, 1 SB win 9 6.82%
More than 1 SB appearance, 2 SB wins 53 40.15%
More than 1 SB appearance, 3 SB wins 34 25.76%
More than 1 SB appearance, 4 SB wins 12 9.09%
More than 1 SB appearance, 5 SB wins 1 0.76%
More than 1 SB appearance, 6 SB wins 22 16.67%
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Old 06-22-2024, 07:49 PM  
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Can the next 6 years be close to the first 6 years of the Mahomes era?

So we know at this point that Andy has been with Mahomes as a starter for 6 years and the results speak for themselves.

The next 6 years will run through Mahomes prime and Andy is signed through that time. Let’s assume a few things:

1. Andy coaches all 6 years
2. Spags coaches all 6 years and retires with Andy at the end of the 2029 season
3. Kelce plays 2 more seasons as planned and then retires
4. Chris Jones plays 3 more seasons
5. The Chiefs lose Dave Merritt in 2025 when his son graduates and heads to college
6. Mahomes does not suffer a significant injury in the next 6 years

What do you think? Can they possibly match the success they had in the first 6 years? Poll incoming
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Old 06-22-2024, 09:22 PM   #16
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I'm not making any predictions, but given the parameters that RunKC laid out, why the hell would any of those future assumptions be insurmountable to him continuing to win at this pace? With the 30ish pick in each round every year, Veach started this run with an absolutely bare cupboard on defense. In the time it took Mahomes to win 3 in 6, Veach finally got the defense built up through the draft and has transformed the entire OL and WR room (minus Hardman) at least once.

He gets to keep Andy AND Veach for the next 6 years? AND Spags? Look, I get it, it's really really hard to win a Super Bowl even with an elite QB, and we shouldn't take last year's "weakest" Mahomes team winning the Super Bowl to mean we'll win it every year we're even slightly better, but come on. All the potential challenges outlined in RunKC's scenario are easier than the ones he just went through in his first six seasons, and now he's rolling with the benefit of playing in his prime.

I'll say this-- I certainly won't be disappointed if he doesn't match the first six years, but I also won't be surprised at all if he surpasses it.
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Old 06-22-2024, 09:37 PM   #17
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What makes me think that 3 SB’s might not happen is regression/retirement of Travis Kelce and Chris Jones after 2-3 years.

I think if this were a betting odd then the over/under would be set at 2.5 SB wins. It’s hard to say but I am stuck on the fence between 2 and 3 SB wins.
I'm not worried at all about Kelce retiring. With Mahomes in his prime and Andy still at the helm? Yeah, there will be a transition, just like there was with Tyreek. We will never replace Kelce, but we will innovate the offense differently and likely still be very successful with a very good TE (Wiley might be that guy). Mahomes has won Super Bowls with all kinds of different offensive personnel. Plus, think about his OL-- each SB was won with a completely different pair of starting tackles!
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Old 06-22-2024, 09:37 PM   #18
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So we know at this point that Andy has been with Mahomes as a starter for 6 years and the results speak for themselves.

The next 6 years will run through Mahomes prime and Andy is signed through that time. Let’s assume a few things:

1. Andy coaches all 6 years
2. Spags coaches all 6 years and retires with Andy at the end of the 2029 season
3. Kelce plays 2 more seasons as planned and then retires
4. Chris Jones plays 3 more seasons
5. The Chiefs lose Dave Merritt in 2025 when his son graduates and heads to college
6. Mahomes does not suffer a significant injury in the next 6 years

What do you think? Can they possibly match the success they had in the first 6 years? Poll incoming
Let's just assume they win every SB until Mahomes retires.
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Old 06-22-2024, 09:49 PM   #19
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Being realistic though, can you imagine if we did win 3 more SBs in the next 6 years and he still has another 6 years of prime football left?

That would be crazy
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Old 06-22-2024, 09:59 PM   #20
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The beauty is the Chiefs have one of the youngest rosters in the league. Kelce is the old man on the team but considering the position he plays he could pull a Tony G and play through majority of Mahomes career if he really wanted to if his body lets him. As long as Veach keeps managing the cap and drafting for the long term like he has when some play themselves into 2nd contacts we can't afford I don't see a down period.

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Old 06-22-2024, 10:16 PM   #21
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Old 06-22-2024, 10:19 PM   #22
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No team has ever had anywhere near that kind of sustained dominance over a 12 year period but there has never been a player in NFL history anywhere near as good as Mahomes. I wouldn’t bet against him accomplishing anything.
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Old 06-22-2024, 11:37 PM   #23
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I feel like anything less than 2 Super Bowl appearances in the next 6 seasons would be disappointing. A lot can happen with an NFL team over 6 seasons, but if Mahomes and Reid are here, getting to the big game 2 out of 6 feels like a reasonable minimum expectation.
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Old 06-23-2024, 12:04 AM   #24
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No team has ever had anywhere near that kind of sustained dominance over a 12 year period but there has never been a player in NFL history anywhere near as good as Mahomes. I wouldn’t bet against him accomplishing anything.
Has there been a team that has kept the same HC/QB combo for that long other than the Pats? That seems to be the key.
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Old 06-23-2024, 01:00 AM   #25
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It sure was a weird transition going from thinking I'll never see them win the Superbowl, to expecting it every year.
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Old 06-23-2024, 03:21 AM   #26
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Old 06-23-2024, 03:49 AM   #27
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It sure was a weird transition going from thinking I'll never see them win the Superbowl, to expecting it every year.
From your mouth to God’s ears.

I have to remind myself how special this is and to enjoy the moment rather than ruining it by dropping unrealistic expectations such as a championship every year.
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Old 06-23-2024, 06:50 AM   #28
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Old 06-23-2024, 06:56 AM   #29
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From your mouth to God’s ears.

I have to remind myself how special this is and to enjoy the moment rather than ruining it by dropping unrealistic expectations such as a championship every year.
I said it after the LVI win, I'm happy. I finally got to see my Chiefs win the SB, and I honestly didn't think that would happen, until we lost the AFCCG to the Patriots. After that game, and really that season, it seemed inevitable that we would get at least one. Now that we have, I truly honestly view the rest of this as gravy.

Having said that, the prospect of a 3 peat to cement Mahomes' legacy...I want it a lot. If it doesn't happen, I still say he's the best to ever do it, but man...if we can get a 3 peat, there is no denying that KC is currently the greatest franchise in the history of the league.

It's so freakin' awesome.
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Old 06-23-2024, 07:58 AM   #30
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I think just by the law of averages it will be difficult for Mahomes and Co ro replicate the success they've had in the first six years. I'd say I expect another SB appearance, MAYBE two but Mahomes could play just as good or a little better and we still might not replicate the success we've had.
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