|
09-13-2006, 08:55 PM | #16 | |
MVP
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Newport, Or
|
Quote:
LINK |
|
Posts: 14,749
|
06-13-2024, 01:31 AM | #17 |
Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2024
|
Hi
|
Posts: 1
|
1 0 |
06-13-2024, 01:57 AM | #18 |
George Brett shit his pants
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: At the Bellagio
|
Interesting. Innovation is good. Kudos to BMW.
|
Posts: 48,406
|
06-13-2024, 04:58 AM | #19 |
Changes pants while driving
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Washington D.C.
|
Is your lease from 2006 up?
|
Posts: 16,750
|
06-13-2024, 05:19 AM | #20 |
TACO SALAD
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: yes
|
|
Posts: 6,249
|
1 0 |
06-13-2024, 06:20 AM | #21 |
Life is changing..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
|
|
Posts: 40,429
|
1 0 |
06-13-2024, 06:30 AM | #22 |
Politically Incorrect
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
|
I was introduced to the hydrogen industry for vehicles about 22 years ago when searching for a job. I was very intrigued and passed as I thought it was too soon. I expected things to pick up in 7-10 years but it really took 20.
1. Hydrogen is the only true GREEN vehicle, EVs are a pollution machine due to all the supporting infrastructure needed from materials extracted for the batteries to the electrical grid. 2. The first attempt at Hydrogen cars supported by Shell Oil failed fue to lack of filling stations and the cost of the hydrogen fuel cell. 3. The trucking industry, which is the sector I am involved with, is far ahead of the auto industry in working with hydrogen. They see hydrogen for the long haul as the bridge to zero emissions for pollution reduction. Hyzon, Hyperion, Nikola, Hyundai, Volvo, many Chinese companies all have major initiatives with Hydrogen trucks. Seen some of these at recent trade shows. 4. Hydrogen fuel cell used to be about 4xs more expensive than gas combustion and now its about 1.85xs. There will be subsidies from the govt to get this moving forward in a big way. 5. Hydrogen is expensive to transfer and delivery and is stored under great pressure. 6. It is not a flammable fuel and would simply evaporate if it escapes but a puncture in a full fuel tank could launch the vehicle as the pressure is strong. 7. Hydrogen would require a massive education program in the US on how to fill the vehicle and it would be more costly than gas in the beginning. 8. Europe and the Scandinavian countries are far ahead of the US. I firmly believe hydrogen will be the fuel of the future, not EVs. |
Posts: 52,112
|
2 0 |
06-13-2024, 06:48 AM | #23 |
2 Legit 2 Colquitt
Join Date: Sep 2010
|
How are they in the cold? I know the knock on EVs is that they are extremely inefficient in freezing weather.
|
Posts: 4,752
|
06-13-2024, 07:31 AM | #24 | |
Banded
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Oz
|
Quote:
|
|
Posts: 41,873
|
2 0 |
06-13-2024, 08:09 AM | #25 |
Ultrabanned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northland
|
Y’all need to know about KCs very own cult leader Dr. Hydrogen
https://www.thepitchkc.com/dr-hydrogen/ |
Posts: 42,084
|
06-13-2024, 08:15 AM | #26 | |
Supporter
Join Date: Mar 2003
|
Quote:
|
|
Posts: 16,972
|
1 0 |
06-13-2024, 08:26 AM | #27 | |
Starter
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Missouri
|
Quote:
https://shop.minimuseum.com/blogs/co...e-broom-method |
|
Posts: 989
|
06-13-2024, 08:38 AM | #28 | ||
Politically Incorrect
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
|
Quote:
Quote:
Read up, you might learn something. It is NOT flammable in the same way pure hydrogen is. The hydrogen is created at the engine. |
||
Posts: 52,112
|
2 0 |
06-13-2024, 08:40 AM | #29 | |
Banded
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Oz
|
Quote:
But I will note that you did not say blue hydrogen. |
|
Posts: 41,873
|
3 0 |
06-13-2024, 08:49 AM | #30 | |
Starter
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Missouri
|
Quote:
That being said, common sense states that burning fossil fuels is much more polluting, so it sounds like to me more that the US Automakers have invested so much into electric, that a shift to hydrogen would burn them up. That being said (in my albeit limited knowledge on the matter), barring we can find an effective avenue of successfully gathering and harnessing Helium-3, it does seem Hydrogen is the best path in the status quo. |
|
Posts: 989
|
|
|