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Baker Mayfield gets paid
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03-10-2024, 08:10 PM | #16 |
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Baker has more playoff wins than Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousins, Trevor Lawrence, Dainiel Jones, and Geno Smith. He is tied with Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, and Lamar Jackson. I think he is better then average and that’s the cost for better then average. He might even be a top 10 QB after this year. Playing hurt in Cleveland really changed his trajectory.
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03-10-2024, 08:13 PM | #17 |
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Baker is, arguably, a top-12 QB in the league. Certainly top-15. His contract AAV ranks 15th before Cousins signs and whatever you want to do with the Russell Wilson shit. I'd say it's pretty much on the money.
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03-10-2024, 08:18 PM | #18 | |
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03-10-2024, 08:24 PM | #19 | |
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Baker deserves a shitload of credit for getting back on the horse and battling himself back to relevance after the Browns did him dirty. He is, at worst, an average NFL quarterback and this is what they cost. And unlike most average NFL quarterbacks, there miiiiiiight be a little more upside there into being actually good. |
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03-10-2024, 08:34 PM | #20 |
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03-10-2024, 08:47 PM | #21 |
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03-10-2024, 08:49 PM | #22 |
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Still better than 2/3's of the QBs in the league.
The question really isn't "Can he go toe-to-toe against Mahomes in the playoffs and win?" because that question has only been answered by one current QB with an all-time great WR corps to help him out. The question is, "Is he good enough to beat any QB in the top-10 not named Pat Mahomes in the playoffs?" I think he is. Get the Bucs a good SWR, LG, RB, NB, SS and LB and they are going to be pretty good again. That's not an impossible laundry list. |
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03-10-2024, 08:50 PM | #23 | |
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These billionaire owners aren't going to pay this type of money to anyone if they don't think they are worth it. Mayfield is capable of doing enough for Bucs owner to get a return on his investment and keep Bucs competitive until they find their guy. We are spoiled here in KC w Mahomes but lets not forget before he came here how hard it was for KC to find an elite QB. It's simply a very difficult position to play which is why even mediocre QBs get paid the way they do. |
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03-10-2024, 09:04 PM | #25 |
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Russillo had a stat that over some number of years (25 or something) there were precisely 0 1st round QBs that got let go for their second contract won a playoff game until Tannehill. Now Baker has one. So what he's done is pretty substantial. Plus his age would suggest he has some upside. People forget what life without Mahomes is like. The reality is Baker gives you a shot. Not a shot that Mahomes gives you, but a shot. Getting some rook in the bottom half of the first, or giving up a kings ransom and end up with a Fields type, more than likely gives you less of a chance. Quote:
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03-11-2024, 12:26 AM | #27 |
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Why didn't the Browns simply keep Baker (and the picks)? Is Watson (with his price tag) really a better option?!?
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03-11-2024, 05:44 AM | #29 | |
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Watson is a fraud. And a serial sexual assaulter. I know life-long Browns fans that walked away on that one. Stupid, stupid franchise. |
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03-11-2024, 06:57 AM | #30 | |
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There should be a “mid-tier” salary range for guys like Mayfield of around $15M per year, but that market doesn’t seem to be a thing. It’s either $30M a year or you’re lucky to earn a one year deal. Doesn’t make any sense but it’s the way it ended up. |
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