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12-15-2019, 04:08 PM | #16 |
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Everyone in town declined to work on Star Wars because of the legacy. Abrams was like their 8th choice.
George had the same issue with the prequels. Zemeckis, Howard, Spielberg and others all turned him down. Everyone I've spoken with about the next iteration of Star Wars has told me that the idea of Favreau writing a trilogy is false. But as I've stated earlier on the topic of Star Wars, I cannot guarantee that my info is absolutely 100% correct because disinformation is the word of the day. |
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12-15-2019, 04:20 PM | #17 | |
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I'm saying the cast wont be asked back by good directors. |
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12-15-2019, 04:20 PM | #18 |
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I really think the Favreau story was just a reaction to The Mandalorian's success. I don't believe there's anything there, either.
I'm still trying to figure out how they do a trilogy that doesn't involve characters from the original saga. I think the only thing we know for sure is that Feige is doing some Star Wars movie about something at some time in the future, but it's not the undisclosed Star Wars movie scheduled for 2022 release, that's getting officially accounced after the new year. |
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12-15-2019, 04:36 PM | #19 | |
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That's an opinion but the box office, Blu Ray and DVD sales, along with Disney Plus subscriptions, differ.
Also, keep in mind that RoS pre-sales have been higher than Avengers: Endgame, which means that there is a huge audience for Episode IX. Quote:
Josh Trank, Colin Trevorrow, Phil Lord and Chris Miller have all been fired because their direction and/or stories didn't fall inline with the wishes of Lucasfilm. Gareth Edwards, who is credited as Director of Rogue One, isn't returning to the Rogue One Prequel in favor of Tony Gilroy, who wrote and directed approximately 40% of Rogue One instead. The bottom line is that Lucasfilm will not bow to the wishes of a Director if they're outside the lines drawn by their President and story group. |
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12-15-2019, 07:55 PM | #20 |
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A lot of shitty music sells a ton as well. Box office doesn't mean shit.
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12-15-2019, 07:59 PM | #21 |
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12-15-2019, 08:13 PM | #22 | |
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12-15-2019, 09:42 PM | #23 |
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No one gives a ****, no one buys the merch, and unless Disney decides to make Filoni GOD MODE of all things SW, this shit is WAY the **** over in the blockbuster realm. And which loudmouthed ****stick would like to step the **** up and wager on this?
I got all. ****ing. Century. |
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12-15-2019, 10:13 PM | #24 | |
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As I've explained in a related thread, there are no plans for further movies and the slate has been wiped clean. Iger asked Feige if he wanted to do a Star Wars film and while he agreed to do it as some point in time, there's no timetable and no story. Plus, Feige just took over Marvel TV so he's got his hands full. Filoni will never run Lucasfilm because he's a Creative. He's directed two episodes of The Mandalorian, is the Co-Executive Producer and Co-Showrunner and from my understanding, has taken on an even bigger role in Season Two. With the Rogue One series set to begin filming next summer, along with the Obi Wan series and at least one more in the planning stages, Star Wars will focus on Disney Plus in the near term, not feature films. I'm not sure if it was made public but when KK first approached Benioff & Weiss, it was about a TV series, not a film trilogy. And after the widely panned final season of GoT, they were cut loose from any further Lucasfilm obligations. The near term future of Star Wars is Disney Plus and I wouldn't expect that to change any time soon, even if RoS is a gigantic blockbuster of epic proportions. |
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12-16-2019, 06:30 AM | #25 |
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The Last Jedi and The Force Awakens are #13 and #4 in all time highest grossing movies with $3.4 billion made thus far. Considering they bought the rights from Lucas for $4 billion, they’ve almost returned on their investment after 7 years and those two films alone. Someone still cares about Star Wars, even if it’s not you.
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12-16-2019, 09:18 AM | #26 |
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Jesuz dude, do I really have to spell it out? Of course those movies made bank, as will this one though my money is on less of a turnout than the other two. This one is based in morbid curiosity among the fans, and will be viewed no more than once by most.
TFA banked because it was first. TLJ hit because it was the sequel, and then it PROMPTLY died because KK and Johnson are idiots who don't know how to write and execute a SW movie. "Solo" tells you everything you need to know about the fans and TLJ/Disney. And of course their pitiful excuse was "we released too much content to quickly". Yeah okay, Delbert. No, what you did was release SHIT written by an identity politics-loving hack, and signed off on by the dumbest **** to ever walk a SW set. THAT'S what you did, Bob-O. And now ****-o says "no more trilogies because format is constraining" -boo hoo hoo bitch-bitch. Translation: "we really ****ing suck at this, so we'll stick to simple things for simple morons and hope that life ( and money ) goes on". |
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12-16-2019, 02:40 PM | #27 |
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Again, good grief.
Marvel tried for more than a decade to deliver a decent film and failed. It wasn't until 2008 that the collaboration between Jon Favreau, Robert Downey, Jr. and Kevin Feige that they finally struck gold. I get it: A large portion of the fan base is unhappy with the decisions made with Episode VII and VIII. Episode IX tries to rectify as many of those issues as possible but there's no doubt that a portion of the fan base, maybe even a majority, will be unhappy with the results. There is no road map for these movies. There is no time honored tradition of making a sequel trilogy 40 years after a film has been initially released. From what I've heard and read, the George Lucas take on VII-IX was similar in many ways to what we've seen onscreen for these movies but some aspects are WAY worse. Micro-level Midichlorians that communicate with the Whills? What kind of nonsense is that? This is a "Learn as they go" proposition. It's not as if they haven't listened to fans or ignored their pleas. Rian Johnson was fired from Episode IX, Colin Trevorrow was fired after his ideas didn't gel with where they wanted to go and as I mentioned earlier, they've fired plenty of talented filmmakers in order to get this "right". Most likely, Episode IX won't please everyone. The prequels didn't please everyone. Hell, even Return of the Jedi didn't please everyone. So spend your $7 dollars or whatever on the film and if you love it, great! and if you hate it, that's fine, too. But either way, there's nothing you can do to change the outcome. And yes, Iger is correct in that a new "Trilogy" of movies is most definitely NOT the way to move forward. Create a great story, put it on film and if the audience reacts and the story requires it, make a sequel. If not, don't. It's pretty simple. |
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12-16-2019, 05:41 PM | #28 |
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Watching all the nerd fan-bois freak out about this has actually increased my interest in the franchise. wtf is wrong with me.
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12-16-2019, 05:49 PM | #29 | |
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Don't get me wrong, i enjoy them. I think they're fun. But all of them are campy, kinda cheesy and the writing is fairly cliche. And that's ok! So are the Transformers movies or the Pacific Rim franchise. They're still entertaining and fun, but c'mon we're not talking storytelling master pieces here. So to see those words come up as criticisms is weird to me. |
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12-16-2019, 05:52 PM | #30 |
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