***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I agree.

I've gone out multiple times each week since the lockdowns in Los Angeles began and I have to say, it's helped my peace of mind immensely. I don't mind masks and gloves and if those are required in order to open things back up, I'm all for it. I think the Coronavirus team has done the best they could, given this situation and while some of the guidelines have changed since early March, I think people have a pretty good handle on what to expect.

But the longer we wait to restart the economy and get people back to work, the more people will be permanently out of a job, which could lead to evictions and foreclosures, not to mention the shuttering of truly legitimate small business, not Ruth's Chris or the LA Lakers, but true Mom & Pops and Single Entity proprietorship's.

If masks (and gloves) are required to open businesses, allow the major sports to resume and even open Disneyland, so be it. I might not be "back to normal" but we need to get back to as much normalcy as we can and as soon as possible.

I went to Costco this weekend and it is cool that they require every customer to wear a mask. All these big stores should require it (looking at you Walmart).


The more I go out locally though the less I see of masks. Very disheartening to say the least.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I went to Costco this weekend and it is cool that they require every customer to wear a mask. All these big stores should require it (looking at you Walmart).


The more I go out locally though the less I see of masks. Very disheartening to say the least.

The smartest thing you can do at Costco is go right around 9, they open at 8 for old people shop and if you get there at 9, no one questions your age yet they're real open isn't until 10 so you can get in and out super fast.

[wazu]

Elon going ham

Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules. I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 11, 2020

[TLO]

Sitting at 669 deaths on Worldomoters right now

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The smartest thing you can do at Costco is go right around 9, they open at 8 for old people shop and if you get there at 9, no one questions your age yet they're real open isn't until 10 so you can get in and out super fast.

So, the early bird avoids the worm?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by wazu

Elon going ham

Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules. I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 11, 2020

Well he does kinda need people to work so he can maintain being a rich man you know.....

[notorious]

Originally Posted by wazu

Elon going ham

Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules. I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 11, 2020

Brilliant marketing by him.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by notorious

So, the early bird avoids the worm?

Anytime I can avoid the shitshow that is a billion people at Costco I'm game for it.

[KCUnited]

Its like an SNL skit anymore

Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker said new modeling data shows the state's COVID-19 cases won't peak until mid-June, a month later than expected.

https://www.dailyherald.com/news/202...until-mid-june

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Anytime I can avoid the shitshow that is a billion people at Costco I'm game for it.

I haven't set foot in a store for two months.


It's glorious.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Well he does kinda need people to work so he can maintain being a rich man you know.....

Yeah I mean its not like hey pay them anything!

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I went to Costco this weekend and it is cool that they require every customer to wear a mask. All these big stores should require it (looking at you Walmart).

Yeah, I agree. Masks are no biggie and they should be required in states that don't already make them a requirement.

It's a very small ask in terms of the Big Picture.

Originally Posted by dirk digler

The more I go out locally though the less I see of masks. Very disheartening to say the least.

Yeah, I'm sure but that's just people being selfish.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

/Agenda

I gave you the reasons for food shortages you felt the need to argue it. I don't ****ing care about your opinion on it. Because this is what the FARMERS/RANCHERS are telling us.

I agree with you. Farmers can see the problems coming over the hill that no one else can see, and people should be listening to them.

The problem is you're willing to accept that but not what the doctors and scientists say are also spending every day fighting this virus. You're just picking and choosing what you want to hear.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Weird I bet there are about 34 million people looking for a job right about now.

And there are companies looking for help. Why don't at least some of them go to work?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

And there are companies looking for help. Why don't at least some of them go to work?

Well Im sure some would, but unemployment is more than most made anyways right now.

In 6 months when it runs out what then?