***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This was about you wasn't it...

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This was about you wasn't it...

Lmao no it wasn't but if you have never been with a chick so hot you'd be willing to do it you just wont understand.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Asian countries use masks more, but their entire population isn't always masked.

And considering we had trouble with PPE I don't know how you would keep up with needing 160 Million masks + a week etc.

Why are so many people having issues with their pepe's these days? I mean damn wash it and don't get soap in the tip and it'll be good.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Lmao no it wasn't but if you have never been with a chick so hot you'd be willing to do it you just wont understand.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, I just wanted an excuse to post that.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Why are so many people having issues with their pepe's these days? I mean damn wash it and don't get soap in the tip and it'll be good.

I dn but we had a pepe shortage evidently at the start of all this. I figured the Asian countries would have been struggling with pepe shortages not us.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, I just wanted an excuse to post that.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I dn but we had a pepe shortage evidently at the start of all this. I figured the Asian countries would have been struggling with pepe shortages not us.

cosmoklaxon

[Baby Lee]

Socialite mentioning her Zoom cocktail parties.

[BleedingRed]

Anyone wanna put together a Discord Cam party tonight, you can do 25 people on web came in on discord chan

[TLO]

Have we all decided "**** it" and we're just going insane?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by TLO

Have we all decided "**** it" and we're just going insane?

Nah when I feel that way I just put on some music and play some games.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by stevieray

A pawpaw is a fruit.

A delicious fruit I may add. Tastes like a cross between banana and pineapple maybe hint of coconut with a creamy texture like a banana. Found statewide in Missouri where some call it the custard apple. Its found in heavy forested areas along creeks rivers and steep bluffs and banks above water bodies. The fruit is green perfectly concealing within its large leaves that resemble a magnolia leaf. Its edible in fall ripening on tree usually around October and November. It turns a green-yellow with brown sploshes when ready to pick. It will release from the stem with a light pull and best eaten on the spot of within a few days like a banana. Get them before the critters do as birds, squirrels and deer will hit it hard at ripening. Good hotspots I have found are on the steep bluffs along NKC levee from Waterworks plant easterly through Macken Park and behind NKC hospital. Native Americans believed the Pawpaw to have medicinal purposes and studies are being done to see if it might have relevance in cancer treatments. It probably might even cure the Rona.

https://nature.mdc.mo.gov/discover-n...d-guide/pawpaw

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The consumption of roughly three hundred million N95 masks once a week for two years is totally sustainable. What are you talking about.

arent you one thats crying about unemployment? go make some ****ing masks and quit bitching.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Not you specifically [MoF, your circumspection in the quoted post was the signifier that it might be productive to bring this up overall], and not so much the 'responsible' new media. But a lot on here, and a shit ton on social media.

Maybe I'm too sensitive, but there seems an avalanche of '**** these butt****ing morons and their freedom' which, even if loosely apt for the situation is merely resentful and catastrophically counterproductive.

Everyone is dealing with imperfect information and extraordinary times, and it just seems like persuasion remains superior to derision and muscle, even if some remain unpersuaded. Part of one's sacrifice for overall success might need to incorporate sublimating one's more snarky and combative impulses.

Yeah, it's our society of "lump everyone you disagree with into a group and call them names".... I've had a few respectful conversations on facebook about all of this, and several more in person, and it's pretty sad that it's refreshing when that takes place and not just the norm.

Reading "persuasion remains superior" has me wondering though... in a case like this, should it be 'persuade' or 'educate'? Is the repeated attempts at persuasion causing the derision?

Get the information out there... give people 'the why'... as you mentioned before, show some humbleness and acknowledge everyone is working with incomplete information... etc.

Shit's going to close anyway, so it's not like we're talking people into that.... and part of the population will always disagree, no matter how much education is out there or how good you are at selling an opinion.

That's not to say we all go radio silent.... but, approaching it a different way -- not to persuade someone else, but asking what you might learn from talking with someone who has a differing opinion -- might go a long way towards educating each other and being able to evolve our opinions instead of being entrenched in them.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Anyone wanna put together a Discord Cam party tonight, you can do 25 people on web came in on discord chan

I would, but my stamina isn’t nearly where it should be for 25 people (especially on a web cam).