***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

It also mentions 27% of those who were hospitalized were under 51,

I've never been sold on the entire social distancing thing. I mean other than I generally don't want people mouth breathing up in my grill regardless if they are sick or not.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I may be able to go back to work as soon as Friday. 2 weeks of paid quarantine and didn’t have to use PTO.

Winning?

Absolutely

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So here's a question...how long do you actually think you had it? Did they give you any idea? You went from pos to neg fairly quickly so I am just curious.

Hard to know. My last exposure at work was on a Friday. I wasn’t tested until Wednesday which was a positive. Then I was tested Sunday and tested negative. So maybe a week?

[Discuss Thrower]

"Social distancing" is at least a cheap way of probably stopping the spread.

But the recent "66% of people 'staying home' still are cases" added in to the relative enigma as to why NYC is a hotspot.. Combined with the instance where the five dudes who attended the same basketball tournament and were sitting in close proximity to each other for at least one game in particular back in March all contracted C-19 and died leads me to believe it's something about prolonged exposure to a physical space where the virus has been shed that becomes the second biggest risk factor than being in immediate close contact with a spreader or infectious object/surface.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

"Social distancing" is at least a cheap way of probably stopping the spread.

But the recent "66% of people 'staying home' still are cases" added in to the relative enigma as to why NYC is a hotspot.. Combined with the instance where the five dudes who attended the same basketball tournament and were sitting in close proximity to each other for at least one game in particular back in March all contracted C-19 and died leads me to believe it's something about prolonged exposure to a physical space where the virus has been shed that becomes the second biggest risk factor than being in immediate close contact with a spreader or infectious object/surface.

I think it points to the virus being here longer, maybe way longer, than anyone seems to think it could have been.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I appreciate your fight. I think I'm about done trying.

Apparently you both aren’t reading your precious article.

This is the main takeaway from the article:

On the other, countries can fight. They can lock down for a few weeks to buy us time, create an educated action plan, and control this virus until we have a vaccine.

So once again, if no scalable/effective vaccine is developed what is the plan?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

"Social distancing" is at least a cheap way of probably stopping the spread.

But the recent "66% of people 'staying home' still are cases" added in to the relative enigma as to why NYC is a hotspot.. Combined with the instance where the five dudes who attended the same basketball tournament and were sitting in close proximity to each other for at least one game in particular back in March all contracted C-19 and died leads me to believe it's something about prolonged exposure to a physical space where the virus has been shed that becomes the second biggest risk factor than being in immediate close contact with a spreader or infectious object/surface.

I definitely believe you are correct in regards to prolonged exposure that is why places like ships, meat packing plants, and nursing homes so far have been where outbreaks most likely happen.


Which is why there is a huge concern to opening back up schools and going back to the corporate job.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Apparently you both aren’t reading your precious article.

This is the main takeaway from the article:



So once again, if no scalable/effective vaccine is developed what is the plan?

What has been mentioned again and again over the last 50-ish posts.

It's been done in other countries; it's not science fiction.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What has been mentioned again and again over the last 50-ish posts.

Nice tap out attempt

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Nice tap out attempt

If only there wasn't a clear plan implemented by numerous other countries that has worked.

[eDave]

Bill Westfall, fighting throat cancer, dies of COVID.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Meanwhile, in Darwin News

“It’s not a pandemic!” speaker claims. “The reason why they’re doing this ... to turn the United States of America into the United Socialist States of America.” pic.twitter.com/O7fdaPQVck

— Matt Stout (@MattPStout) May 4, 2020

The reopen Arizona rally ends with a singing of “Amazing Grace.” The host encourages everyone listening to hold hands and touch each other. #12news https://t.co/JdMutBV8Nx pic.twitter.com/5VtRrq1mlL

— Michael Doudna (@MichaelDoudna) May 3, 2020

What a bunch of dumbasses. Look, if you want to open the economy and be indifferent to the amt of deaths. I get it. Thats a choice. But to stick your head in the sand and claim its because of some political agenda..good god.

[jdubya]

already posted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAa8FLInScc

[eDave]

Originally Posted by jdubya

already posted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAa8FLInScc

Way to go.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If it's not worth your time to even skim the article and try to understand how this works, it's not really worth my time to try and help you understand it.

I'm not seeing an article. You posted a picture, and I read the few sentences you wrote. What am I supposed to "skim" that I didn't?