***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

If you are trying to find out what he was wearing , yes maybe a little.

More like knowing what his underlying conditions were. I guess ultimately it doesn't matter..

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

More like knowing what his underlying conditions were. I guess ultimately it doesn't matter..

It does and it doesn't , it might make a difference to the doctors trying to figure this thing out to but to us without having access to the whole chart/labs/tests/knowledge it might not.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Is it morbid of me to want to know more details?

Details? You mean like what's inside his butthole?

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by R Clark

I understand how it works , beef is how I make a living and I have no sympathy for Packers . It’s a monopoly to the highest degree he’ll I ain’t got the time or the want to explaining how bad the producers get hosed

Hey, I get that side as well and you can't raise your prices since it's basically like an auction on the price... you definitely get the worse of it. Hopefully you can get some help to keep you afloat, this isn't your fault.

[mr. tegu]

For freezers Nebraska Furniture Mart stores are closed but you can still go there to pick up online orders. People may have forgotten about them somewhat so they might have some in stock.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is anyone else doing home delivery for groceries? It apparently gets you in the supply line a few days out (if you want) so with some planning, it's no big deal.

I tried Instacart about 3 weeks ago and it was a disaster. Not only did the driver substitute items, even though I specifically stated "No Substitutes", he forgot several items as well.

I ended up going to Ralphs the next day myself so it was a total waste of time and money.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

For freezers Nebraska Furniture Mart stores are closed but you can still go there to pick up online orders. People may have forgotten about them somewhat so they might have some in stock.

July I think they estimate

[TLO]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Details? You mean like what's inside his butthole?

[DaneMcCloud]

I've been wanting to purchase a freezer for my garage for quite some time but for the past several months, they've been out of stock in LA but suddenly, a few models are available at Home Depot only.

I've never owned a dedicated freezer before so is it a PITA to own a non-Frost Free or should I spring for a Frost Free model?

Thanks in advance!

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've been wanting to purchase a freezer for my garage for quite some time but for the past several months, they've been out of stock in LA but suddenly, a few models are available at Home Depot only.

I've never owned a dedicated freezer before so is it a PITA to own a non-Frost Free or should I spring for a Frost Free model?

Thanks in advance!

Dude, go frost free, I can't stress that enough. I have one of each and yes, the one that is not frost free is a PITA.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Dude, go frost free, I can't stress that enough. I have of each and yes, the one that is not frost free is a PITA.

Excellent, thank you! (and my apologies for going off topic).

[TLO]

Have seen a few more headlines today that the virus may indeed be weakening.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I have a trip to Italy planned for this summer, for example, and it's remotely possible that many of the tourists sites could be shut down by then in order to try and contain this thing.

Go
Have fun just hanging out with what ever is open
I am going back to Heidelberg for 4 days then Zuffenhausen and Nuremenberg mid summer. Late summer we are in France for a 24 hour race.
My only concern is booking air flights and the airlines changing s*&t.

[SAUTO]

So all these people in new York that are staying home and still getting it have got to be getting it from asymptomatic spreading, correct?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

So all these people in new York that are staying home and still getting it have got to be getting it from asymptomatic outlasting, correct?

Is anyone leaving the house and coming back?

Getting it from deliveries?

Shit, recycled air in an apartment complex/walk up?

No idea.