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[Dante84]

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[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Dante84

IF I'M CHRIS
- Why not wait and see what the open market has to offer within the legal tampering period (Monday at noon)? Would the Chiefs really pull their best and final offer?

IF I'M VEACH
- I submit my best and final offer on Sunday, and hope Chris accepts.


When he hits the tampering period, he's going to see some ridiculous numbers. And then he'll have a choice - home town discount to stay, or chase the money.

You submit your best offer Sunday if you are Veach so you can quickly move forward Monday if he doesn't accept. No time to waste if they want Wilkins for example.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

You submit your best offer Sunday if you are Veach so you can quickly move forward Monday if he doesn't accept. No time to waste if they want Wilkins for example.

Yep, i edited it to account for that.

Cannot be left swinging in the wind again like we were with OBJ.

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Yep, i edited it to account for that.

Cannot be left swinging in the wind again like we were with OBJ.

My fear is that is what will happen

No evidence so far of a plan b and we will end up reaching for an average player as we did with Taylor.


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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by milkshock

My fear is that is what will happen

No evidence so far of a plan b and we will end up reaching for an average player as we did with Taylor.

Except for the last several years of Veach and his approach to FA.

If Jones isn't done by the legal tampering window, he'll have a matter of hours to change his mind. Not days.

Because if the window opens, Veach is moving on. He's going after Wilkins or Chase Young or Leonard Williams.

He's not going to sit on his capital while the options dry up (and then the lack of options gets used as a lever against him by other agents). It's simply not how he's operated.

He absolutely has a Plan B. And C and D and E if necessary. Which is why this absolutely cannot be a "Pay Jones whatever he wants" scenario.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Until proven otherwise, his agents are gonna play hardball for top dollar. It's what they did last year. I assume they are hoping to get north of $32M per year from someone else in the market.

Yep. As long as Jones kept them employed, figured that'd be the case. It's unfortunate, but there's only so much you can do when you're working with obstinate jackasses only focused on the $$$. I figured maybe Chris would realize his interests and theirs don't exactly align since he's made it more than obvious he wants to stay, but that hasn't born anything of consequence and they're still his representation.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Mentioned it last night, but right now you know those greaseball Katz bros are filling Chris' head with shit about what he deserves and dollar amounts that team X, Y, and Z are going to offer.

But Chris is the one who has to ultimately flush out all the emotions, history, and goals he holds in KC to put pen to paper for another franchise. Shit like this is always so much easier said than done.

[RunKC]

Or maybe Chris has looked at his last 2 years and Aaron Donald’s last 2 years and feels he’s better and deserves more money, which is completely fair.

Doesn’t mean Veach is gonna hand him that but I understand the thought there

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

If we can resign Jones and Kelce plays another few years I’d say we win probably 4 more in next 10 years. If Jones is gone that number probably drops to 2. Mahomes can make receivers look good. He turned Rashee Rice into Jerry Rice.

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I think what you mean to say is re-sign.

Oh, and your premise is based on a ton of variables. I wouldn't say it is either or.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Or maybe Chris has looked at his last 2 years and Aaron Donald’s last 2 years and feels he’s better and deserves more money, which is completely fair.

Doesn’t mean Veach is gonna hand him that but I understand the thought there

He probably does feel that way but will that money, which he 1000% does not need, be enough to leave a great ****ing situation as a lifer in KC to go somewhere it won't get better?

[kcgreene]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Except for the last several years of Veach and his approach to FA.

If Jones isn't done by the legal tampering window, he'll have a matter of hours to change his mind. Not days.

Because if the window opens, Veach is moving on. He's going after Wilkins or Chase Young or Leonard Williams.

He's not going to sit on his capital while the options dry up (and then the lack of options gets used as a lever against him by other agents). It's simply not how he's operated.

He absolutely has a Plan B. And C and D and E if necessary. Which is why this absolutely cannot be a "Pay Jones whatever he wants" scenario.

Veach literally has said this in interviews. Literally talking about having backup plans to an almost annoying redundancy. This is 100% correct.

[RunKC]

He’s got 3 rings and is probably getting into the HOF one day. He didn’t grow up a Chiefs fan guys.

His legacy is cemented regardless. I can understand going for the bag since it’s his last chance to strike big

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Mentioned it last night, but right now you know those greaseball Katz bros are filling Chris' head with shit about what he deserves and dollar amounts that team X, Y, and Z are going to offer.

But Chris is the one who has to ultimately flush out all the emotions, history, and goals he holds in KC to put pen to paper for another franchise. Shit like this is always so much easier said than done.

TJ Watt had to ignore his agents to get the deal done with the Steelers. I don't believe the same will happen with Chris Jones.

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Except for the last several years of Veach and his approach to FA.

If Jones isn't done by the legal tampering window, he'll have a matter of hours to change his mind. Not days.

Because if the window opens, Veach is moving on. He's going after Wilkins or Chase Young or Leonard Williams.

He's not going to sit on his capital while the options dry up (and then the lack of options gets used as a lever against him by other agents). It's simply not how he's operated.

He absolutely has a Plan B. And C and D and E if necessary. Which is why this absolutely cannot be a "Pay Jones whatever he wants" scenario.

Like I said , there was no evidence of that planning with OBJ and Taylor last year. It was more like cut OBJ and acquire whoever happened to be available at the time. Which happened to be Taylor. And overpay for him. Even if it was a plan it wasn’t some kind of genius move.


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[Shields68]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Mentioned it last night, but right now you know those greaseball Katz bros are filling Chris' head with shit about what he deserves and dollar amounts that team X, Y, and Z are going to offer.

But Chris is the one who has to ultimately flush out all the emotions, history, and goals he holds in KC to put pen to paper for another franchise. Shit like this is always so much easier said than done.

Thats the problem with dealing with an agency that only really has one big client. They need the payday worse then their client. They also need the headlines in hopes to attract another big name or two.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Dante84

IF I'M CHRIS
- Why not wait and see what the open market has to offer within the legal tampering period (Monday at noon)? Would the Chiefs really pull their best and final offer?

IF I'M VEACH
- I submit my best and final offer on Sunday, and hope Chris accepts. If he doesn't, and it floats for a day or two, I tell him I have to pursue another route.


When he hits the tampering period, he's going to see some ridiculous numbers. And then he'll have a choice - home town discount to stay, or chase the money. If he waits too long, KC will have to move on - lesson learned with OBJ last year.

Chris Jones’ agents already probably have “off the record” tentative offers in place from the not-legal tampering that goes on with agents and teams at the Combine and this week.