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Old 02-26-2015, 12:37 PM  
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FCC Approves New Net Neutrality Rules

FCC approves new net neutrality rules

The Federal Communications Commission voted Thursday to implement new net neutrality rules designed to make sure Internet service providers treat all legal content equally.

The historic vote on the proposal by FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler elicited hearty cheers from a wide array of technology companies and consumer groups while setting the table for further legal challenges from Internet service providers. The controversial proceedings that led up to the vote generated heated lobbying in Washington and public clamor on social media, all in efforts to steer the future direction of the rules that guide Internet traffic.

"No one ... should control free and open access to the Internet," Wheeler said to applause from the standing room-only crowd gathered before the FCC panel. "It's the most powerful and pervasive platform on the planet. The Internet is too important to allow broadband providers to make the rules."

Net neutrality, also called open Internet, is a principle that Internet networks are equally available to all types of legal content generators. Internet service providers (ISPs), mostly large cable or telephone companies, would be prohibited from discriminating against content by slowing transmission speeds or seeking payments in exchange for faster lanes of their Internet networks, a practice called "paid prioritization."

Implementing the principle at a time when Internet streaming technology is changing so rapidly proved challenging to Wheeler as he sought to balance the varying interests of influential content streamers, like Netflix, and large ISPs that have spent millions to fight the effort. The FCC was besieged with passionate comments from both sides of the debate, receiving about 4 million comments, a record. In the end, Wheeler, with a nudge from President Obama, delivered on his proposals, though not without a fight from his colleagues and Republican lawmakers who wanted to delay the vote.

Wheeler's proposal reclassifies ISPs as public utilities, like phone companies, that are subject to a set of regulations that ensure all consumers get fair access to their services. ISPs would be banned from paid prioritization deals, though they can set aside fast lanes for some exceptions, including public services, like remote heart monitoring.

The authority for the new rules comes from Title II of the Communications Act of 1934. The new rules also call for the regulators to "forbear" — or refrain — from some provisions of Title II, including pricing regulation and other parts that are less relevant to broadband services.

The regulations will be published in the Federal Register in a few weeks. They become effective 30 days after publication.

Pro-business advocates and ISPs, including wireless carriers, have denounced Wheeler's approach. The proposal's insistence on laying out the do's and don'ts of operating Internet networks would inhibit ISPs from introducing new services — say, connected refrigerators and smartphone-controlled windows and doors — and limit innovations in improving their networks, they say.

"What doesn't make sense, and has never made sense, is to take a regulatory framework developed for Ma Bell in the 1930s and make her great grandchildren, with technologies and options undreamed of eighty years ago, live under it," said Jim Cicconi, AT&T's senior executive vice president-external and legislative affairs, in a statement.

The five-member commission voted 3 to 2 to approve the proposal, as expected. Joining Wheeler in voting for his plan were Commissioners Mignon Clyburn and Jessica Rosenworcel. Commissioners Ajit Pai and Michael O'Rielly, the two Republicans on the commission, voted against it.

"We cannot have a two-tiered Internet with fast lanes that speed the traffic of the privileged and leave the rest of us lagging behind," Rosenworcel said. "We cannot have gatekeepers who tell us what we can and cannot do and where we can and cannot go online."

The outcome is hardly surprising as all five commissioners had telegraphed their stances since Wheeler revealed the summary of his proposal earlier this month. President Obama came out strongly in support of the Title II option late last year.

Opponents sought to delay the vote until, citing a lack of transparency. On Monday, Pai and O'Rielly issued a joint statement criticizing Wheeler's refusal to reveal the entire 332-page plan and called for "the FCC leadership … to allow the American people a reasonable period of not less than 30 days to carefully study it" before the vote. The chairman made public only a summary before the vote.

O'Rielly reiterated his concern that Obama had inserted himself into the process. "I am just sick about what Chairman Wheeler was forced to go through during this process," O'Rielly said in a statement. "It was disgraceful to have the Administration overtake the Commission's rulemaking process and dictate an outcome for pure political purposes."

Several Republicans — Reps. Greg Walden, R-Ore. and Fred Upton, R-Mich., and Sen. John Thune, R-S.D. — helped create draft legislation in an effort to overrule the FCC's plans. Their legislation would ban paid prioritization, but falls short of reclassifying the Net as a utility.

"We will continue to seek a consensus solution, and hopefully bipartisan legislation, Cicconi said.

The FCC approved net neutrality rules since 2008. But Wheeler, a former tech industry executive and industry lobbyist, was forced to come up with a new proposal when the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia in early 2013 tossed out the earlier rules.

Anticipating Wheeler's proposals, ISPs have started to threaten lawsuits. "Instead of a clear set of rules moving forward, with a broad set of agreement behind them, we once again face the uncertainty of litigation," Cicconi said.

Some the key details of the proposal are still unclear. The FCC would have authority to enforce any "interconnection" agreements — deals struck between ISPs and content providers to transmit data more efficiently in the "back-end" of the Internet networks — that are "not just and reasonable."

But whether Netflix can continue to pay some ISPs to locate its servers closer to their networks' key distribution points to stream its movies without too much lag — as it does now — remains unclear.

In a lengthy speech before the crowd, Pai also questioned the FCC's ability to continue to refrain from the "forbearance" promises it made. The FCC also has agreed to not impose further tariffs or require ISPs to unbundle some services or file a burdensome amount of documents. But "the plan repeatedly states that it is only forbearing 'at this time,'" Pai said. "For other rules, the FCC will refrain 'for now.'"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...ules/24053057/
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:48 AM   #271
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"The opposition, in contrast, has been represented by small players in the industry, hardware providers like Cisco, free-market think tanks and disinterested professors, and a small group of writers and pundits who know something about freedom and free-market economics. The public at large should have been rising up in opposition but people are largely ignorant of what’s going on"


WTF? Cisco is not a "Small player" in the industry. Not even a little bit. They're a dogshit company, but not a small one.
This is not saying Cisco is a small company. Reads like small players in the industry AND hardware providers such as Cisco are in opposition. For whatever reason.

My take.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:59 PM   #272
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This is not saying Cisco is a small company. Reads like small players in the industry AND hardware providers such as Cisco are in opposition. For whatever reason.

My take.
Cisco sell tons of load balancing gear. Perfect for throttling down or speeding someone up.
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Old 02-27-2015, 02:06 PM   #273
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Old 02-27-2015, 02:42 PM   #274
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Cisco sell tons of load balancing gear. Perfect for throttling down or speeding someone up.
Yes indeed. We throttle (bits) American Express, internally, like a mofo.

That hardware has been and will still be procurred.
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Old 02-27-2015, 03:00 PM   #275
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The government never serves the people's best interest.
And neither does big business, so we're pretty much ****ed either way
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Old 02-27-2015, 03:05 PM   #276
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And neither does big business, so we're pretty much ****ed either way
Especially since Big Business owns the government
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Old 02-27-2015, 03:25 PM   #277
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Especially since Big Business owns the government
Exactly. So the obvious answer is.......more government!
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Old 02-27-2015, 03:34 PM   #278
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Exactly. So the obvious answer is.......more government!
Well, in a very rare occasion, this ruling definitely favors the citizens of America and not the corporations.

Even though corporations are people, too.
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Old 02-27-2015, 04:58 PM   #279
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Note I am not saying turn down speeds to someone else's service, I am saying pay for faster speed to their service.
This is where I exhale deeply and shake my head.
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Old 02-27-2015, 05:07 PM   #280
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well these big ass corporations were on the verge of deciding who gets to sell what on the internet. Once that happened, there was no going back.

I'd rather let the free market decide that, not a big ass corporation.
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Old 02-27-2015, 05:10 PM   #281
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well these big ass corporations were on the verge of deciding who gets to sell what on the internet. Once that happened, there was no going back.

I'd rather let the free market decide that, not a big ass corporation.
The big ass corporations are backed by the government. The good ol boy club. Same difference in my book.
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:22 AM   #282
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Simple answer but the best answer!
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:55 AM   #283
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Now that net neutrality is likely going to be enforced, hopefully our lagging internet infrastructure will be improved.

If that doesn't make sense: without net neutrality, there is actually a profit incentive to ensure that bandwidth is always very or somewhat limited compared to demand. Rather than invest in their shit to make their internet service faster, its better business to make sure that there is not enough bandwidth to go around and force netflix, hulu, etc to pay you more money to get what little of it that you feel like providing.

That business model is rightfully gone.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:33 PM   #284
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Now that net neutrality is likely going to be enforced, hopefully our lagging internet infrastructure will be improved.

If that doesn't make sense: without net neutrality, there is actually a profit incentive to ensure that bandwidth is always very or somewhat limited compared to demand. Rather than invest in their shit to make their internet service faster, its better business to make sure that there is not enough bandwidth to go around and force netflix, hulu, etc to pay you more money to get what little of it that you feel like providing.

That business model is rightfully gone.
This.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:34 PM   #285
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Now that net neutrality is likely going to be enforced, hopefully our lagging internet infrastructure will be improved.

If that doesn't make sense: without net neutrality, there is actually a profit incentive to ensure that bandwidth is always very or somewhat limited compared to demand. Rather than invest in their shit to make their internet service faster, its better business to make sure that there is not enough bandwidth to go around and force netflix, hulu, etc to pay you more money to get what little of it that you feel like providing.

That business model is rightfully gone.
Things are going to get worse before they get better.
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