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Old 04-30-2022, 11:31 AM  
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Old Yesterday, 01:01 PM   #271
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hahaha I forgot about how bad Bartee was at NOT getting his head around.

He actually always had GREAT position but simply could not turn his head around to make a play on the ball. It was a really odd thing to watch week after week when he'd be sticky as hell on his man but his ability to simply turn his head meant his dude was always catching the ball.

I still think we should trade for a corner even if it's just depth
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hahaha I forgot about how bad Bartee was at NOT getting his head around.

He actually always had GREAT position but simply could not turn his head around to make a play on the ball. It was a really odd thing to watch week after week when he'd be sticky as hell on his man but his ability to simply turn his head meant his dude was always catching the ball.

I still think we should trade for a corner even if it's just depth
He could have been a superb safety. He really was pretty good in coverage.
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Old Yesterday, 01:22 PM   #273
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Williams had a stretch last year, including the playoffs, where he was flat out dominant.
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Old Yesterday, 01:25 PM   #274
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He could have been a superb safety. He really was pretty good in coverage.
HE WAS! That was the deal - he could stick to his man like glute but literally just couldn't get his head around.

Coulda been a true lockdown corner had he learned how to do that
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I confess I haven’t spent much time actually watching Williams, but PFR says he’s allowed a 75% completion rate and a 128 passer rating so far this season. Only been in targeted like 5 times though.
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Bartee should have never been a corner. He was a good safety in college and after he showed them he couldn’t play corner, the coaching staff should have moved him back there where the need to get his head turned would have been mitigated.

It’s what makes me even more appreciative of Spags…that time period where we drafted a few safeties to play corner was hard to watch.

Even when Warfield was an ok corner, I’ll always wonder how good of a safety he could have been.

Bartee and Warfiekd should have both been safeties for us.
They actually did move him back to safety after they signed ty law but he got hurt and that was it
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Williams had a stretch last year, including the playoffs, where he was flat out dominant.
IMO he's been lost in the scheme more than lost on the field. He's capable but his first big one last week he came down on a route that someone else (Reid?) was on and left his guy to run deep.
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IMO he's been lost in the scheme more than lost on the field. He's capable but his first big one last week he came down on a route that someone else (Reid?) was on and left his guy to run deep.
PG thinks every player is a damn star. I caught him saying Wanya was playing great
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PG thinks every player is a damn star. I caught him saying Wanya was playing great
IIRC, I said that Wanya and Thuney were handling their side of the line really well together in the videos posted (especially on stunts), mainly because they were.

I'm not saying Williams is a star, but he had a stretch last year where was damn good. I'd try to track down stats to support that assertion, but you don't seem a bit concerned with accuracy, data, or reality anyway.
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He was pretty good last year and better than his rookie year. He's been pretty terrible this year. One snap against the Bengals or Chargers was just ugly, cant remember. Not sure what it is but he looks clumsy, easily manipulated, and ill-disciplined.

Maybe he'll lock in with more snaps and step up, there's enough to suggest he can play a lot better. Doesn't mean he will.
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