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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:54 PM   #271
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Better at what?



If you could be specific, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Rushing the passer no matter the level of competition.
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:07 PM   #272
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Those are career numbers. Correct, Hef?

I'd never argue that Houston has had a better career thus far. That would just be absurd. He only had 5.5 sacks his rookie year.

BUT, since the start of last season, he's averaging over a sack a game and this year appears to have taken his game to another level.

EDIT: I know that graph is showing sack percentage against competition. I'm just highlighting the fact that it likely includes Houston's rookie season in which he only had 5.5 sacks in 16 games and was clearly not the same player he is now.
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:17 PM   #273
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Houston wasn't starting til mid season rookie year also
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:24 PM   #274
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Nobody doubles Houston like they do Von. Von absolutely decimated Fluker and after that sack the Chargers doubled him every single play. If SD had left Von alone on Fluker the entire night Von would've had 3 or 4 sacks.
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:27 PM   #275
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Those are career numbers. Correct, Hef?

I'd never argue that Houston has had a better career thus far. That would just be absurd. He only had 5.5 sacks his rookie year.

BUT, since the start of last season, he's averaging over a sack a game and this year appears to have taken his game to another level.

EDIT: I know that graph is showing sack percentage against competition. I'm just highlighting the fact that it likely includes Houston's rookie season in which he only had 5.5 sacks in 16 games and was clearly not the same player he is now.
Ok, here it is, with Von's entire career, including his crappy 2013, against:

Houston's entire career (in red)
Houston's career minus his rookie year (in yellow)
Houston since the start of 2013 (in purple, because I ran out of Chiefs colors)



Now, should I start cherry-picking Von's best seasons, as well?
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:41 PM   #276
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I'll give you that one. Von has been more consistent.

That's only one metric, though. Don't think you've won the war.
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:53 PM   #277
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:55 PM   #278
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Hasn't Von gone sackless in a game facing Eric Fisher?
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:58 PM   #280
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Hasn't Von gone sackless in a game facing Eric Fisher?
In Denver no less (I think).
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:38 PM   #281
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Hasn't Von gone sackless in a game facing Eric Fisher?
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In Denver no less (I think).
Yep, he had no sacks in either game against KC in 2013. Between his suspension, injury, and deciding to bulk up to a ridiculous size, Von did not have a good 2013.

As far as divisional rivals, Von got sacks in:

4/7 games against KC
2/4 against OAK
6/7 against SD

Houston:
2/6 against DEN
1/5 against OAK
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Nobody doubles Houston like they do Von. Von absolutely decimated Fluker and after that sack the Chargers doubled him every single play. If SD had left Von alone on Fluker the entire night Von would've had 3 or 4 sacks.
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Yep, he had no sacks in either game against KC in 2013. Between his suspension, injury, and deciding to bulk up to a ridiculous size, Von did not have a good 2013.

As far as divisional rivals, Von got sacks in:

4/7 games against KC
2/4 against OAK
6/7 against SD

Houston:
2/6 against DEN
1/5 against OAK
1/6 against SD
Let me say that again. NO SACKS VS ERIC FISHER. LOL
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Denver is a one man gang and that one shits his pants every year in the playoffs. End of thread.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:27 PM   #285
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Let me say that again. NO SACKS VS ERIC FISHER. LOL
Uh huh, cool. In 17 AFCW games, Houston has 5.5 sacks. In 18 AFCW games, Von has 14 sacks.

In fact, Houston seems to have a knack for racking up sacks in the least important games. 18.5 of his sacks (more than half of his career total) have come in 6 games against Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans, St. Louis, Jacksonville, and Tennessee. You may recognize all of those teams as being either in the NFC or terrible.
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