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08-01-2001, 04:06 PM

How can you guys be fans of a clearly racist team? Teams like the 'Redskins' and the 'Chiefs' are clearly depicting American Indians in an inappropriate manner. As if the white man has not done enough damage to the Indian culture and heritage, football teams like the Chiefs must portray Indians and their mascot and portray American Indians in a demoralizing manner.

The US would never stand for team names like the 'Honkies', 'Spooks', 'RagHeads', 'WOPs', or 'Slants'. Why then should we be subjected to the desecration of the American Indian?

By simply supporting this, what I consider to be a criminal organization, you are backing the negative portrayal of the American Indian. Therefore, I consider you not Chiefs fans, but racists. The path to Arrowhead Stadium is truly a Trail of Tears.

aturnis · 08-01-2001, 08:30 PM

Do you not listen.........

The KC Chiefs do not use this in referance to any Indians, we are merely paying tribute to a great man.......

Dude, you must not get ANY ladies, this is why you choose to play cowboys and indians with Falstaff, cuz women like guys who can listen, and you just talk. Therefore no ladies and you have to settle for fellow "men" if thats what you want to call Falstaff.

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-01-2001, 08:32 PM

You're right, Kyle. I'm done with this.

This guy is ludicrous.

Brock · 08-01-2001, 08:36 PM

Any of you guys every listen to the Phil Hendrie show? That is what this post reminds me of.

bishop_74 · 08-01-2001, 08:37 PM

Close-minded???

"...said the kettle to the pot..." I think I have had enough ignorance for an evening as well. Still he has not made 1 explantion as to how it is derogatory, he has just referenced others concern over the subject. Apparently he can't even think for himself. I'm done...

**AustinChief** · 08-01-2001, 08:38 PM

raiderhader,

about time you showed up... I just logged in and didn't see any posts from you.

We haven't had any trolls for awhile... so I guess its ok to play with them for a bit....

--Kyle

08-01-2001, 08:38 PM

IDIOTS

Is the word 'spic' deragatory? No. It is just a few letters, like cat or beer. However, Latinos find it offensive, so out of RESPECT for them we choose, or I choose not to use it. The use of the word show a lack of respect for a race and is thus racist.

'Chiefs' is offensive to Native Americans. I have posted about five articles PROVING this. You may find atdditional information on the web or at your local library. Additionally, AGAIN no other racial group is depicited in professional sports. The Native Americans do NOT like it, do NOT consider it an honor and want it STOPPED.

END OF DISCUSSION...

Your recipies were better than your arguments.

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-01-2001, 08:39 PM

falstaff and pearlman,

But seriously, you guys need to stop this.

Its kinda gay.

**AustinChief** · 08-01-2001, 08:41 PM

There is an ongoing poll(another thread)... I'll keep it open for another 15 minutes or so... and then we'll take action depending upon the results....

--Kyle

stevieray · 08-01-2001, 08:43 PM

Who invented the term 'race'...man. Blame him.

Mi_chief_fan · 08-01-2001, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by falstaff
IDIOTS

Is the word 'spic' deragatory? No. It is just a few letters, like cat or beer. However, Latinos find it offensive, so out of RESPECT for them we choose, or I choose not to use it. The use of the word show a lack of respect for a race and is thus racist.

Kinda like calling someone a Neo=Nazi, dip$hit?

Tomahawk 11 · 08-01-2001, 08:43 PM

VIKINGS, CELTICS, FIGHTING IRISH,

All a bunch of white guys. With the exception of the Fighting Irish, all professional sports teams.

I DEMAND THAT THIS BE STOPPED!!! OR I WILL CRY

aturnis · 08-01-2001, 08:45 PM

Thats b/c the meaning of spic is latino, and is no matter how you use it derogatory! DERRRRRRRRRRRR MY NAME IS FALSTAFF... DERRRRRRRRRRRR I HAVE A WOODEN SPOON!

Chief wasn't even derived from a native american indian, chief does have a derogatory meaning if chosen to be used in a derogatory fashion, but when you don't even use this word as a referance to the indians your arguements is kind of.....no......VERY weak! so all i have to say to you is........EAT A DICK!

Zebedee DuBois · 08-01-2001, 08:45 PM

I think what they are trying to say is that the name Chiefs is demeaning because they think we are a sucky team. That our recent subpar years bring disrepute to the word Chiefs.

If that is the case, I am all for bringing glory to the Chiefs name with a Championship or three!

Zeb,
Making random sense of nothing.

**AustinChief** · 08-01-2001, 08:45 PM

Falstaff,

by your logic... I'm offended by YOU callling me AustinChief... therefor YOU are a rascist... kindof a slippery slope eh?

You can't judge rascism, simply by what offends a person... intent must ALSO play a part....

I find it offensive that French people are well... French! but does that make them rascist for being French!

think for a sec bud...

--Kyle

08-01-2001, 08:45 PM

Again, this BBS rings of pre-war Germany. Kick two people off for posting INTELLIGENT topics, that happen to be against the grain. Freedom of speech - not on ChiefsPlanet.com!

Go on - SHOW YOUR POWER, you MANLY men! Reject any ideas that are not accepted in you community.

Again - I have not broken ANY rules, and have kept my posts clean and to the point. I will be offended if booted for expressing my opinion.

Trolls post things like 'KC Sucks' and 'Chiefs ar stupid'...

I have brought up the serious issue of racism in American Sports. If you can not handle this topic, well, then so be it.

08-01-2001, 04:06 PM
falstaff Guest	Chiefs are racist How can you guys be fans of a clearly racist team? Teams like the 'Redskins' and the 'Chiefs' are clearly depicting American Indians in an inappropriate manner. As if the white man has not done enough damage to the Indian culture and heritage, football teams like the Chiefs must portray Indians and their mascot and portray American Indians in a demoralizing manner. The US would never stand for team names like the 'Honkies', 'Spooks', 'RagHeads', 'WOPs', or 'Slants'. Why then should we be subjected to the desecration of the American Indian? By simply supporting this, what I consider to be a criminal organization, you are backing the negative portrayal of the American Indian. Therefore, I consider you not Chiefs fans, but racists. The path to Arrowhead Stadium is truly a Trail of Tears. Last edited by falstaff; 08-01-2001 at 04:10 PM..
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08-01-2001, 08:30 PM	#271
aturnis MVP aturnis's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa	Pearl Girl....... Do you not listen......... The KC Chiefs do not use this in referance to any Indians, we are merely paying tribute to a great man....... Dude, you must not get ANY ladies, this is why you choose to play cowboys and indians with Falstaff, cuz women like guys who can listen, and you just talk. Therefore no ladies and you have to settle for fellow "men" if thats what you want to call Falstaff.
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08-01-2001, 08:32 PM	#272
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Chiefs Pantalones's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City	You're right, Kyle. I'm done with this. This guy is ludicrous.
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08-01-2001, 08:36 PM	#273
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08-01-2001, 08:37 PM	#274
bishop_74 Veteran bishop_74's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Denver, CO. USA	Close-minded??? "...said the kettle to the pot..." I think I have had enough ignorance for an evening as well. Still he has not made 1 explantion as to how it is derogatory, he has just referenced others concern over the subject. Apparently he can't even think for himself. I'm done... Last edited by bishop_74; 08-01-2001 at 08:42 PM..
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08-01-2001, 08:38 PM	#275
AustinChief Administrator AustinChief's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin	raiderhader, about time you showed up... I just logged in and didn't see any posts from you. We haven't had any trolls for awhile... so I guess its ok to play with them for a bit.... --Kyle
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08-01-2001, 08:38 PM	#276
falstaff Guest	IDIOTS Is the word 'spic' deragatory? No. It is just a few letters, like cat or beer. However, Latinos find it offensive, so out of RESPECT for them we choose, or I choose not to use it. The use of the word show a lack of respect for a race and is thus racist. 'Chiefs' is offensive to Native Americans. I have posted about five articles PROVING this. You may find atdditional information on the web or at your local library. Additionally, AGAIN no other racial group is depicited in professional sports. The Native Americans do NOT like it, do NOT consider it an honor and want it STOPPED. END OF DISCUSSION... Your recipies were better than your arguments.
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08-01-2001, 08:39 PM	#277
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Chiefs Pantalones's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City	falstaff and pearlman, But seriously, you guys need to stop this. Its kinda gay.
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08-01-2001, 08:41 PM	#278
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08-01-2001, 08:43 PM	#279
stevieray best in the biz stevieray's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure	Who invented the term 'race'...man. Blame him.
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08-01-2001, 08:43 PM	#281
Tomahawk 11 Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: 10-20?	VIKINGS, CELTICS, FIGHTING IRISH, All a bunch of white guys. With the exception of the Fighting Irish, all professional sports teams. I DEMAND THAT THIS BE STOPPED!!! OR I WILL CRY
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08-01-2001, 08:45 PM	#282
aturnis MVP aturnis's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa	DUH YOU IDIOT! Thats b/c the meaning of spic is latino, and is no matter how you use it derogatory! DERRRRRRRRRRRR MY NAME IS FALSTAFF... DERRRRRRRRRRRR I HAVE A WOODEN SPOON! Chief wasn't even derived from a native american indian, chief does have a derogatory meaning if chosen to be used in a derogatory fashion, but when you don't even use this word as a referance to the indians your arguements is kind of.....no......VERY weak! so all i have to say to you is........EAT A DICK!
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08-01-2001, 08:45 PM	#283
Zebedee DuBois Veteran Zebedee DuBois's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: floating in a tin can	I think what they are trying to say is that the name Chiefs is demeaning because they think we are a sucky team. That our recent subpar years bring disrepute to the word Chiefs. If that is the case, I am all for bringing glory to the Chiefs name with a Championship or three! Zeb, Making random sense of nothing.
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08-01-2001, 08:45 PM	#284
AustinChief Administrator AustinChief's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin	Falstaff, by your logic... I'm offended by YOU callling me AustinChief... therefor YOU are a rascist... kindof a slippery slope eh? You can't judge rascism, simply by what offends a person... intent must ALSO play a part.... I find it offensive that French people are well... French! but does that make them rascist for being French! think for a sec bud... --Kyle
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08-01-2001, 08:45 PM	#285
falstaff Guest	Again, this BBS rings of pre-war Germany. Kick two people off for posting INTELLIGENT topics, that happen to be against the grain. Freedom of speech - not on ChiefsPlanet.com! Go on - SHOW YOUR POWER, you MANLY men! Reject any ideas that are not accepted in you community. Again - I have not broken ANY rules, and have kept my posts clean and to the point. I will be offended if booted for expressing my opinion. Trolls post things like 'KC Sucks' and 'Chiefs ar stupid'... I have brought up the serious issue of racism in American Sports. If you can not handle this topic, well, then so be it.
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