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Old 12-18-2022, 12:06 AM  
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:02 PM   #2821
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Ok...I'll be your huckleberry. what do you think it means when someone deems the team as a 'fraud'? What is a fraud, in your opinion?
Calling them a fraud means all their success is a mirage and they actually suck. This team doesn’t suck and anyone who thinks they do is just too dumb to argue with.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:03 PM   #2822
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Context is key. Look at the box Stas of this game. We played like a 10-3 team, the Texans looked like a 1-11-1 team. The difference was 10 penalties against the chiefs for 102 yards. The refs are the only reason why this game was the way it was. Look at the box scores of both teams.
The refs AND the turnovers by the chiefs.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:03 PM   #2823
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Not really. The conspiracy stuff on here is embarrassing
The conspiracy stuff is stupid, but Cheffers and Crew didn’t do much to pacify that crowd today
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:03 PM   #2824
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People who are complaining about the defense you take away the turnover and ref screwjob we win by double digits.
Yes but our defense does indeed suck. We can't get pressure without blitzing, that narrative hasn't changed.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:04 PM   #2825
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I thought after watching the Minnesota game yesterday, no game could be called any worse by the refs. I was wrong.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:04 PM   #2826
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IMHO the problem is we don't appear to be a team trending to play better at the end of the season...
My sentiments...I ask Pitt and his comrade, is this considered calling the team 'a fraud' or legitimate fandom criticism. I need your ruling.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:05 PM   #2827
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Every team can say that...and I dont disagree. My issue is officiating is terribly inconsistent...KC had at least 3 PI's that I saw worse contact that wasnt called in other games this week. I'd like to think that it averages out. It may not, but I feel it's a weak argument.

I've been on the record as saying officiating has been terrible around the league all year long. But 10 penalties for 102 yards, that sustained every scoring drive by the Texans is not something every team can say. And the problem is I can't even blame the defense for all those calls. Over half of them shouldn't have been called. Or should've resulted in offset penalties from blatant holds on their OL
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:06 PM   #2828
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The conspiracy stuff is stupid, but Cheffers and Crew didn’t do much to pacify that crowd today
That crew has no business in the NFL they are awful
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:07 PM   #2829
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Not really. The conspiracy stuff on here is embarrassing
“Cheffers isn’t qualified to manage a foot locker” - Travis Kelce, GOAT, 2017.

I don’t think you disagree, but it doesn’t have to be a conspiracy. He can be a petty dumbass with a chip on his shoulder for crying on National TV when reffing the Chiefs this year.

Historically, no official has called more consequential plays against the Chiefs than Cheffers. It can be a byproduct of him overofficiating or being a moron, but it should be okay to call those things out.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:07 PM   #2830
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IMHO the problem is we don't appear to be a team trending to play better at the end of the season. That can turn around all in one game. We have our problems but I wouldn't want to bet against 15 and 87. Unless of course it's only against the spread.
KC does appear to be able to play down to the competition.

But they can also come back from ten point deficits.

Have the league's best offense and also be one of the worst at converting third and one.

I think I see a trend here...
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:07 PM   #2831
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Calling them a fraud means all their success is a mirage and they actually suck. This team doesn’t suck and anyone who thinks they do is just too dumb to argue with.
Ok... to you, what is success? Your definition of success, versus others might not be the same. Maybe some think 'success' is a potential SB appearance or trophy, and not just a playoff appearance. That doesnt mean the team 'sucks', maybe it means the team failed to meet their post season goals.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:08 PM   #2832
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Wasn't the 49 yard drive the one with 3 flags on every play though, including one where the receiver literally just ran into the safety? (and the DPI, didn't get a good replay of it)
Yes there was 3 defensive penalties on that drive. I am not a ref conspiracy theorist though. One of those calls was bad the other 2 legit IIRC
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:08 PM   #2833
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I'm sorry, the third and long defense is horrible and inexcusable. It has been a constant problem that stretches back over the last three defensive coordinators. Pointing that out isn't wrong. Glad we won, but that shit is demoralizing. I don't think you have to go into a game day thread and just ignore things. Cheer for the good, and point out what isn't.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:08 PM   #2834
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Calling them a fraud means all their success is a mirage and they actually suck. This team doesn’t suck and anyone who thinks they do is just too dumb to argue with.
idiotic

that's not what it means

that's why this argument is stupid. having an argument with stupid people over definitions is a waste.
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Old 12-18-2022, 04:08 PM   #2835
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your point is stupid though

you want to argue about the word fraud but really there are serious questions about this team right now.

we don't match up well with 4-5 of our potential opponents. We haven't been really tested by healthy good offenses and done well.

Ok so if you don't like the word fraud..which I can understand..then what's an alternative? Denial?

Only an absolute Homer can't see that we are going to run into a brick wall at playoff time... So it's a dumb argument about the meaning of the word.. a semantic argument. Whatever it is you want to call it.. The reality doesn't not seem to match up with our illusion of what this team could be.
It's just that people have to take it to such an extreme.

If someone says they're losing in the playoffs no matter who they play, they're dumb.

If someone says they're getting blown out by the Bills or Bengals, they're dumb.

If someone says there are multiple concerns that could cost them at important times in the playoffs, even more so than previous years (whether that's true or not).... okay, now we're at least being realistic, even though I don't see any other team in the league that doesn't have their own concerns.
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