***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[jerryaldini]

Regardless of how bad the virus ultimately is, with the widespread shutdowns and market meltdown affecting sentiment it's nearly a given we are entering recession, but hopefully a mild one if it gets contained in time. Even the normally liquid Treasury market melted down today as primary dealer balance sheets couldn't handle the volume of funds moving to cash, and the 10 and 30 year yields spiked again (selloff) and the ETFs went to huge discounts to net asset value, which for Treasuries is crazy. In other words, investors shunned even safe government debt in search of liquidity.
Fed stepped in with huge repo moving repo rate down 50 basis points (likely cut fed funds 100 next week now if not before the meeting), calmed stocks for a bit, then straight down again.

This is not 08 because banks' capital is healthy and their liquidity is adequate, at least for now. No need to panic. Stocks shouldn't be too far from bottom now, unless there's an unforseen spike in US cases. Meanwhile a couple leveraged energy ETFs had to delist today and high yield energy spreads are 15%. Good times.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Regardless of how bad the virus ultimately is, with the widespread shutdowns and market meltdown affecting sentiment it's nearly a given we are entering recession, but hopefully a mild one if it gets contained in time. Even the normally liquid Treasury market melted down today as primary dealer balance sheets couldn't handle the volume of funds moving to cash, and the 10 and 30 year yields spiked again (selloff) and the ETFs went to huge discounts to net asset value, which for Treasuries is crazy. In other words, investors shunned even safe government debt in search of liquidity.
Fed stepped in with huge repo moving repo rate down 50 basis points (likely cut fed funds 100 next week now if not before the meeting), calmed stocks for a bit, then straight down again.

This is not 08 because banks' capital is healthy and their liquidity is adequate, at least for now. No need to panic. Stocks shouldn't be too far from bottom now, unless there's an unforseen spike in US cases. Meanwhile a couple leveraged energy ETFs had to delist today and high yield energy spreads are 15%. Good times.

Among all this corona bs, it’s good to read this kind of info. Like everyone else, my 401K has taken a huge kick to the nuts the past two weeks. I haven’t looked at in the last 10 days because it just sucks. At least my employment is safe and should be recession proof (knock on wood) and hopefully everyone can just ride this out until the panic subsides.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by TLO

So Ohio said this a couple days ago..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dis...emplate=ampart

If they now think 1% of the population has it, that's a big jump in just a short period of time.

Something feels off here.

The Republican Governor for Ohio Mike DeWine just confirmed that only 1,000 tests are available to 11.69 Million citizens who live there.

He further said that projections are over 100,000 Ohioans will be infected with the #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/A0v4VQyqKU

— wisconsinsane (@wisconsinsane) March 12, 2020

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

Seriously?

the head physician for Congress and the SCOTUS said yesterday in a private meeting with congressional staff to expect 75+million infected here in the USA.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

The Republican Governor for Ohio Mike DeWine just confirmed that only 1,000 tests are available to 11.69 Million citizens who live there.

He further said that projections are over 100,000 Ohioans will be infected with the #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/A0v4VQyqKU

— wisconsinsane (@wisconsinsane) March 12, 2020

To be a voice of reason, it could be he's indicating kits.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

The Republican Governor for Ohio Mike DeWine just confirmed that only 1,000 tests are available to 11.69 Million citizens who live there.

He further said that projections are over 100,000 Ohioans will be infected with the #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/A0v4VQyqKU

— wisconsinsane (@wisconsinsane) March 12, 2020

So they currently believe they have 100,000 cases or they believe over time there will be over 100,000 cases?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

the head physician for Congress and the SCOTUS said yesterday in a private meeting with congressional staff to expect 75+million infected here in the USA.

Link?

[Mennonite]

Originally Posted by Spott

At least my employment is safe and should be recession proof (knock on wood)

Life comes at you fast:

pic.twitter.com/OotgfoJTlD

— Universal Studios Hollywood (@UniStudios) March 12, 2020

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Spott

Among all this corona bs, it’s good to read this kind of info. Like everyone else, my 401K has taken a huge kick to the nuts the past two weeks. I haven’t looked at in the last 10 days because it just sucks. At least my employment is safe and should be recession proof (knock on wood) and hopefully everyone can just ride this out until the panic subsides.

most everyone thinks we will revert back to pre-conavirus levels pretty quick. I watched a business show tonight and they were all in agreement that the only thing that can stop the free fall is the government to quit combating this as a financial crisis but as a health crisis.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

This idea we are so far behind Italy doesn’t really make sense given we had 20 cases on February 2nd and they had just 4 cases. There doesn’t seem to be a logical reason for us to be just now expecting the masses to hit the hospitals like they were weeks ago.

Welp now Ohio has more than 100k cases so we might as well close up shop and call it a day.

[dmahurin]

My work will begin processing samples tomorrow. Expecting between 500 and 1000 samples per day to be tested. Current test is completed in less than 8 hours. Ill be working remote for the foreseeable future.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

Link?

I’ve grown tired of answering your questions like I’m FOS. It was widely reported. Google it my good man.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

So they currently believe they have 100,000 cases or they believe over time there will be over 100,000 cases?

It specifically says "will be" in the tweet.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by TLO

What?

What is even happening in here now?

It feels like we have good discussion for a bit and then it all goes out the window in like 4 posts.

Absolutely. We need a clean up

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by dmahurin

My work will begin processing samples tomorrow. Expecting between 500 and 1000 samples per day to be tested. Current test is completed in less than 8 hours. Ill be working remote for the foreseeable future.

Thank you. Can you continue to update us on progress?