***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Is it theatrics that those of us that choose to wear a mask when in public do so?

For some I would absolutely say yes. For most, no.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Those are all fresh foods. Kind of a strange position from which to ridicule the starvation potential of a lack of double Wendy w/cheese, when it's premised on the total lack of fresh beef available.

Unless you anticipate a seamless transition to canned stores and bulk dry staples.

I have no idea how other people across the nation eat on a daily basis. I was asked about specific foods and answered.

The Wendy's comment had to do with irony: One poster has been blaming obese diabetics for COVID-19 hospitalizations throughout this thread and another says people will starve without cheeseburgers.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Don't elide that he was murdered in large part because he was rude to someone's woman in a tough part of Flint, MI.

It wasn't a heat of the moment thing, the customer denied entry returned home and the people at said home returned to that store later to smoke the security guard.

Murder 1 FTW

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Is it theatrics that those of us that choose to wear a mask when in public do so?

I just don't get people that make a big deal out of wearing a mask in public.

I've been wearing a mask and rubber gloves in public since mid-March and I've heard of no one complaining about mandatory masks in Los Angeles.

My mom just sent another dozen cloth masks to us and my wife purchased 500 N95's through a friend, 400 of which we've donated.

Hell, it was 90 degrees yesterday during my 3 mile walk through our very hilly neighborhood and the mask wasn't an issue at all.

[petegz28]

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

https://apple.news/AiKa5VGCeTpe7tFd-Cz6zVg


Imagine this being the hill you choose to die on

If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19. Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Don't elide that he was murdered in large part because he was rude to someone's woman in a tough part of Flint, MI.

It wasn't a heat of the moment thing, the customer denied entry returned home and the people at said home returned to that store later to smoke the security guard.

Welp, I guess we should relax the guidelines in tough neighborhoods then.

Wait, violence is being threatened other places due to mask requirements.

https://time.com/5831351/threats-okl...r-coronavirus/

To the people who resort to threats and intimidation when asked to take a simple step to protect your community: shame on you. Our freedom as Americans comes with responsibilities, too.

— Mayor Will Joyce #StayHomeStillwater (@stillwaterwill) May 1, 2020

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nati...s-restrictions

Police in Holly, Michigan were searching Monday for a suspect who allegedly assaulted a Family Dollar Store clerk over being asked to wear a mask as the store required. Confronted by a clerk, the man allegedly wiped his nose and face on the employee’s shirt.

In Ohio, Republican Gov. Mike DeWine backed off plans to institute mandatory mask-wearing in stores after complaints from residents, making it a strong recommendation instead. He told ABC News business groups had stressed the importance of masks to protect employees, but it turned out to be “a bridge too far” for some.

“People were not going to accept the government telling them what to do,” DeWine said on ABC’s “This Week.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19. Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.

What about the asymptomatic crowd?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

I'll bite.

Why are they wearing them for the wrong reasons, Pete?

Its odd that hes talking about this I've seen 3 different people on FB with the same ideology posting a meme about people wearing face masks in public. Very cultish.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I just don't get people that make a big deal out of wearing a mask in public.

I've been wearing a mask and rubber gloves in public since mid-March and I've heard of no one complaining about mandatory masks in Los Angeles.

My mom just sent another dozen cloth masks to us and my wife purchased 500 N95's through a friend, 400 of which we've donated.

Hell, it was 90 degrees yesterday during my 3 mile walk through our very hilly neighborhood and the mask wasn't an issue at all.

It's not at all, but some people just need something to be offended about.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Are you really not reading?

Did you? Read what Fauci said again.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19. Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing.

353 pages into this thread, and the idea of asymptomatic transfer still eludes some of you.

[Bearcat]

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Masks just need to become fashion accessory like a ball cap. I'm more than happy to wear my Chiefs masks around here, but I get why people wouldn't really like wearing the ones that are just black or that were made with flowery scraps of fabric that someone had lying around the house.

https://www.rageon.com/a/products?fi...ternalId=iNGbA

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

What about the asymptomatic crowd?

I sneeze all the time due to photic sneeze reflex. I'm guessing most people would frown on me not wearing a mask even though I'm 100% healthy (to my knowledge at least).