***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Im curious to see what the next week or two brings. What would be beneficial is a rapid screening test that doesnt involve using blood. Send that bitch out in the mail so people can test themselves at home, so that everyone isn't going to the clinic and potentially spreading it. Then have them report their results online. That'd be the best way to find out how widespread this bitch is.

it already exists. The USA declined to use it and developed, botched and then redeveloped our own test. Made any tests go to the CDC. Now they are not even considering remote or drive by testing. Whoever has the Presidents ear needs to get up into said ear and tell him this is a ****ing crisis. We need to go outside the normal processes here too like South Korea and China did successfully.

[TLO]

The case in Springfield is a woman in her 20's that recently returned from Austria. She contacted her health department (did everything right, didn't just show up to the ER). She's at home in isolation and they presume she will make a full recovery.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by TLO

The case in Springfield is a woman in her 20's that recently returned from Austria. She contacted her health department (did everything right, didn't just show up to the ER). She's at home in isolation and they presume she will make a full recovery.

Pic ?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Spott

Do you ever hang around the gymnasium?

A couple of times.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Pic ?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Definitely, but those machines aren't just sitting in warehouses, the rad techs aren't jobless, etc.

last I heard we had 10K ventilators in reserve sitting in government storage somewhere. They were going to OTJT rad techs in the field hospitals. The on-site doctor would make a decision on whether to trust the images taken on a case by case basis.

We just don’t have extra medical Personnel in the USA. The only thing anyone ever come up with was cross training but even that ran into legal issues.

Then there was moral issues. Who gets to be on a ventilator in the hospital? How do you cataogize a decision? They are all on ventilators barely hanging on to life. How do you decide? Who gets to decide?

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Donger

Well, it takes ~14 days for symptoms to show up after infection. That's when people will really start hitting the hospitals. That takes us up to right about now to see potentially explosive case increases. I think the next two to four weeks are going to be indicative to how bad it's going to get.

This idea we are so far behind Italy doesn’t really make sense given we had 20 cases on February 2nd and they had just 4 cases. There doesn’t seem to be a logical reason for us to be just now expecting the masses to hit the hospitals like they were weeks ago.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

JUST IN: Ohio health official estimates 100,000 people in state have coronavirus https://t.co/ofSCBJILGB pic.twitter.com/zWdp7DRtPj

— The Hill (@thehill) March 12, 2020

[srvy]

Originally Posted by wazu

Unrelated but thought I'd check here - is there an actual open ChiefsPlanet thread where people are discussing guns? (Like, which ones to buy for the apocalypse, not D.C. threads debating the law.)

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=293623

[BWillie]

https://www.ksnt.com/health/coronavi...e-on-covid-19/

70+ year old guy died from Covid-19 from Wyandotte. Doesn't sound like they knew he even had it until they did an autopsy. Died at Providence Hospital in Kansas City.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

JUST IN: Ohio health official estimates 100,000 people in state have coronavirus https://t.co/ofSCBJILGB pic.twitter.com/zWdp7DRtPj

— The Hill (@thehill) March 12, 2020

Seriously?

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I believe he's referring to the difference between what happened in Philadelphia and St. Louis.

St. Louis did what we are doing now and saw half the deaths of Philadelphia who threw a big ****ing parade where everyone mingled.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Here’s the highlight:

The first wave of the 1918 pandemic occurred in the spring and was generally mild. The sick, who experienced such typical flu symptoms as chills, fever and fatigue, usually recovered after several days, and the number of reported deaths was low.

However, a second, highly contagious wave of influenza appeared with a vengeance in the fall of that same year. Victims died within hours or days of developing symptoms, their skin turning blue and their lungs filling with fluid that caused them to suffocate. In just one year, 1918, the average life expectancy in America plummeted by a dozen years.

Thank you.

[Chief Roundup]

Arkansas had one this morning and is at 6 now.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

I've had 2 out of state meetings and a pending training cancelled today.

I decided I'll know when it's time to get nervous.

When Casinos shut down, you know it's time to fill the magazines with zombie loads.

https://katu.com/news/local/indian-c...ts-coronavirus


SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Leaders of an American Indian reservation in Oregon shut down its casino and several other facilities Monday after an employee contracted coronavirus, and a state health official said the virus is likely circulating and will appear in additional locations in the state.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

JUST IN: Ohio health official estimates 100,000 people in state have coronavirus https://t.co/ofSCBJILGB pic.twitter.com/zWdp7DRtPj

— The Hill (@thehill) March 12, 2020

So Ohio said this a couple days ago..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dis...emplate=ampart

If they now think 1% of the population has it, that's a big jump in just a short period of time.

Something feels off here.