***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Now if this is true what O.City is saying makes sense.

Please refresh me on what he's saying

[candyman]

Just heard another confirmed case in Missouri, Springfield this time.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

When did the thumb up and down buttons appear?

"Thumbs down"

Over a year ago. They don't have them over in DC land.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Now if this is true what O.City is saying makes sense.

They pretty much discredited the entire article at the end.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by loochy

Please refresh me on what he's saying

Yes I'm also curious.

Originally Posted by candyman

Just heard another confirmed case in Missouri, Springfield this time.

Yep. News conference at 6pm.

[candyman]

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — Gov. Mike Parson has confirmed that Missouri now has its second case of “presumptive positive” coronavirus.

Parson said the case is based in Springfield, but has not provided any more information at this time.

He, along with the Springfield mayor and the Springfield-Greene County Health Department Director Clay Goddard, will hold a news conference at 6 p.m. in Springfield to provide more details on the newest COVID-19 case.

FOX4 will stream that conference live on fox4kc.com and on the FOX4 app to bring you the latest details.

Missouri’s first coronavirus patient is based out of St. Louis County. That patient had recently returned from a trip to Italy where the virus outbreak has been widespread.

As of this Thursday, four cases have also been confirmed in Kansas, all of which are in Johnson County. The first was confirmed over the weekend — a female under 50 years old.

Three new, unrelated cases were announced on Thursday. Those three patients are all men between 35 and 65 years old. They all visited the same conference in Florida, where Kansas Health Secretary Lee Norman believes they contracted the virus.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

There were experts (I think experts, maybe just people) claiming the virus had been circulating for 4 to 6 weeks in Washington State before the first diagnosed case. Yet there's still no giant boom. Yes Washington has been hit hard, but it still seems manageable. Nothing super out of control.

The first diagnosed case was on 1/14:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ses-in-us.html

I don't see why anyone would think that it was widespread here back in December of 2019.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by loochy

Please refresh me on what he's saying

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Originally Posted by O.city

It's not as much the hot weather that will help slow it down, but during warm months, we're not all coup ed up together so we can get out side and get the hell away from each other.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

and they shouldn’t. One millimeter of pressure/ramp off and you can cause castrophic harm. Most go to school for a year. Then do a residency for another year in hospitals. Take boards. Get licsensed before they ever allow you to control the ventilator.

There isn’t RT’s sitting on their ass at home to call in. What we decided was that the RT’s would be at every emergency location running and making changes on the ventilators. We have more nurses than RT’s.

The nurses would take care of some of the ancillary but crucial tasks that RT’s do beside run the ventilators. suctioning out the fluid out of peoples lungs. Get the bloodwork. That would free up the RT’s to run more ventilators.

What about imaging availability, blood gasses, etc?

It sure wouldn't be ideal. Granted if it gets that bad you do what you need to do.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by candyman

SPRINGFIELD, Mo. — Gov. Mike Parson has confirmed that Missouri now has its second case of “presumptive positive” coronavirus.

Parson said the case is based in Springfield, but has not provided any more information at this time.

He, along with the Springfield mayor and the Springfield-Greene County Health Department Director Clay Goddard, will hold a news conference at 6 p.m. in Springfield to provide more details on the newest COVID-19 case.

FOX4 will stream that conference live on fox4kc.com and on the FOX4 app to bring you the latest details.

Missouri’s first coronavirus patient is based out of St. Louis County. That patient had recently returned from a trip to Italy where the virus outbreak has been widespread.

As of this Thursday, four cases have also been confirmed in Kansas, all of which are in Johnson County. The first was confirmed over the weekend — a female under 50 years old.

Three new, unrelated cases were announced on Thursday. Those three patients are all men between 35 and 65 years old. They all visited the same conference in Florida, where Kansas Health Secretary Lee Norman believes they contracted the virus.

I bet the press conference is held in or near a gymnasium.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by staylor26

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Oh yeah, no shit Sherlock. That's why viral sicknesses aren't as prevalent in the summer

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I bet the press conference is held in or near a gymnasium.

Do you ever hang around the gymnasium?

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by loochy

Oh yeah, no shit Sherlock. That's why viral sicknesses aren't as prevalent in the summer

Part of the reason, but it's a little more complicated than just that.

It seems that dry air plays a significant contribution as well.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by loochy

Oh yeah, no shit Sherlock. That's why viral sicknesses aren't as prevalent in the summer

Viral infections transfer easier in colder less humid climates. That's why its less prevalent in the summer.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by SupDock

What about imaging availability, blood gasses, etc?

It sure wouldn't be ideal. Granted if it gets that bad you do what you need to do.

portable imaging dropped off. Mini-ABG’s machines. At the time they could do PH/Co2/Hco2. Hope your sat monitor is functioning correctly. I’m sure you can get Pao2 with the current models.