***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Again, yes you could have stopped this cold.


Give people stimulus money, put a hold on debt. Everyone get food and lock the **** down for 2 months. No hosts to spread to the virus dies

Then let people work but not travel for a couple months more. You can stop any flare ups that may occur easier at that point.

Great on paper but not sustainable in real life

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

NYC decided not to even sanitize the subways until 23k people died.

That's not correct.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by R Clark

It’s a fact that it’s been here since at least early January ? I thought I read or heard that someone here in Kansas had been sick in early Jan and dr suspected covid and had them come back in and tested them recently and they tested out that they’d had it?

I hadn’t heard that but this discussion started from a person in France being reported today to having it on December 27th.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Personally I think working from home is great, more companies should look into letting people do that.

I did it for a few years when I was at Sprint. It got to the point that when my Wife would get home we were out the door. You get tired of being at home all the time. Literally.

That being said there were benefits like not having to spend 2 hours in the morning showering and driving and then another hour driving home. I could do things like spend my lunch time mowing the grass or running to the store. And when it was nice out I could sit out on the deck and work and possibly catch an afternoon Royals game.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

That's not correct.

JFc, Donger it was just a figure of speech.

[Donger]

Heh:



On May 2, 2020, one local captured the "craziness" of the amount of people who flooded the Port Aransas beaches.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

That's not the point.

You said if it's 70k dead in 4 months the thinking changes. 70k died in 2 months.

You actually moved the goals.

I just further laid out how the thinking would change. I didn’t move any goalposts. Not sure what your issue is with more information leading to more questions.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

JFc, Donger it was just a figure of speech.

Perhaps. And it was incorrect.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

New York saw a peak in hospitalizations on April 12 with 18,825, a number that has been declining ever since. Hospital bed capacity in the state is over 90,000, after Cuomo instructed hospitals to increase the previous 53,000-bed capacity.

Yep and they are still at 1k new a day.

And some of those total going down is because they ****ing died Pete.

It's down 8k total and how many died in that time?

Not much to get excited about imo

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I did it for a few years when I was at Sprint. It got to the point that when my Wife would get home we were out the door. You get tired of being at home all the time. Literally.

That being said there were benefits like not having to spend 2 hours in the morning showering and driving and then another hour driving home. I could do things like spend my lunch time mowing the grass or running to the store. And when it was nice out I could sit out on the deck and work and possibly catch an afternoon Royals game.

That's a long shower what were you doing in there.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

That's a long shower what were you doing in there.

Washing behind my ears?????

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Donger

Heh:



On May 2, 2020, one local captured the "craziness" of the amount of people who flooded the Port Aransas beaches.

There sure is alot of really stupid people in this country.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Yep and they are still at 1k new a day.

And some of those total going down is because they ****ing died Pete.

It's down 8k total and how many died in that time?

Not much to get excited about imo

I get it, dude. Everyone else is wrong, you're right. You should call Cuomo and tell him to stop lying.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

There sure is alot of really stupid people in this country.

Good tans though.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

There sure is alot of really stupid people in this country.

You just now figuring that out?