***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by loochy

but it sure does make you feel better

Yep, that's the big reason to control it.

[RINGLEADER]

Serious/Critical cases in China, Italy, Spain, France: 5,641
Serious/Critical cases in the entire rest of the world: 218
Serious/Critical cases in the US: 10

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Controlling the fever isn't routinely necessary

true just makes you feel less shitty, sorry I didn't mean it as a way to treat it.

[Rain Man]

Disneyland is closing for only the fourth time ever. The other three were the JFK assassination, the Northridge earthquake, and 9/11. It's a small world after all when you have fast-moving viruses.

(No link because it's behind a paywall at the NY Times.)

[PAChiefsGuy]

So this virus came from a bat that gave it to a human during a wild animal trade show in China right?

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Monticore

true just makes you feel less shitty, sorry I didn't mean it as a way to treat it.

Good deal

Some people just erroneously look at fever that doesn't respond to Tylenol or ibuprofen as a concerning sign

[dirk digler]

Hope they send Reid, Veach and Mahomes to Hawaii or somewhere out of reach

NFL teams continue to make changes to their business practices in light of recommendations to limit the spread of COVID-19 in the United States.

The Chiefs and Giants both announced that they will have all non-essential personnel work from home for the next two weeks. Both teams say they will continue to assess the situation before deciding what to do at the end of the two-week period.

The Chiefs also announced that they are suspending all business travel for team personnel. The Giants’ decision to do the same was reported earlier in the day.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Are strip clubs going to suspend lap dances?

Not the male ones, so you’re fine.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

So this virus came from a bat that gave it to a human during a wild animal trade show in China right?

I read somewhere that that story is apocryphal. While the article said that it likely made the leap from some animal to humans, it can't be traced with that level of specificity.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by loochy

Sometimes I really think mother Earth is a living thing that takes care of itself.

I have actually said this a few times, earth is taking the issue of overpopulation into her own hands or could be the democrats or the republicans I forget who the bad guys are maybe its those assholes from Gryffindor.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Hope they send Reid, Veach and Mahomes to Hawaii or somewhere out of reach

I bet Clark has a saferoom somewhere where he can stash them. It's probably some massive underground complex in Kansas that looks like a small pole barn from the ground.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Walmarts near me opened a 3rd register. All I need to know about how serious this thing is.

[mililo4cpa]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

I've had 2 out of state meetings and a pending training cancelled today.

I decided I'll know when it's time to get nervous.

When Casinos shut down, you know it's time to fill the magazines with zombie loads.

My Girlfriend's mom works at a casino in Biloxi, MS.....said the place was dead. Note that (at least as of this morning), Mississippi had 0 reported cases....

All this is heresy, but her mom is pretty honest and laid back, so I wouldn't think she is over-exaggerating to greatly....

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I bet Clark has a saferoom somewhere where he can stash them. It's probably some massive underground complex in Kansas that looks like a small pole barn from the ground.

Lets be honest... it's in Texas.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

So this virus came from a bat that gave it to a human during a wild animal trade show in China right?

That's the theory. The outbreak in China has been linked to the Wuhan Seafood Market:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huanan...olesale_Market

Lot's of yummy bushmeat sold there...

They do think that it was either direct eating of a bat, or zoonotic transmission from a bat-infected civet or pangolin.