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Old 11-20-2018, 07:47 AM  
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Is the NFL and its refs out to "get us"?
You conspiracy nuts need to stop this crap.The game wasn't fixed. This poor old me routine on here is getting old.



The NFL loves the Chiefs and Mahomes. They are the exact team they want playing in the NFL. GMF is nothing but a Mahomes lovefest every morning. All of the NFL network shows tout Mahomes and the Chiefs offense. They flexed us into two straight weeks on SNF. Its so obvious other teams fans are bitching about the constant Mahomes/Chiefs love fest.But, they are out to get us?

Another one is the NFL doesnt want a small market winning the SB. Are these conspiracy nuts paying attention? Small markets don't matter if your the big dog. Rogers in GB, Manning in Indy, Hello....evidence you can see with your own eyes.

With all this evidence we can see on a daily basis, somehow you get the idea that the NFL wants the Chiefs to lose. That makes no sense. They are not out to "get us". The NFL is promoting the shit out of us on a daily basis. This conspiracy BS is just that, BS.
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:08 PM   #256
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:10 PM   #257
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I would agree with this. If Mahomes was in Jacksonville or Buffalo, they would be promoting the hell out of him there. But, he's in KC.
THIS! They are a damn good team for this era, so are we thanks to Mahomes.
Dude, the league has been promoting the shit out of Mahomes all season. Did you miss the month long hype train leading up to this game?
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:17 PM   #258
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I think they had a stage with millions of new viewers that would be watching this new offensive style football for the first time. The NFL is wanting this offensive explosion to happen to grow the game. It’s working so far. Fans love the offense. Ratings are up everywhere. They just didn’t want to **** it up with bad officiating. No conspiracy. But, best laid plans of mice and men.......
Everything you said there is 100% true, no question

But its an easy argument to make when you refuse to even consider the other facts surrounding this game... the incredibly high stakes involved with LA, the huge sums of money available, their recent track record of officiating abortions so bad it strains the credulity of "just some really bad dumbass refs"

These refs were supposedly the cream of the crop

Todays NFL only sees itself as owing the viewer an "entertainment experience" and nothing more... someone posted the leagues official statement about it a several years ago
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:26 PM   #259
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Everything you said there is 100% true, no question

But its an easy argument to make when you refuse to even consider the other facts surrounding this game... the incredibly high stakes involved with LA, the huge sums of money available, their recent track record of officiating abortions so bad it strains the credulity of "just some really bad dumbass refs"

These refs were supposedly the cream of the crop

Todays NFL only sees itself as owing the viewer an "entertainment experience" and nothing more... someone posted the leagues official statement about it a several years ago
Why're you guys still watching if it's the WWE?
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:45 PM   #260
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Why're you guys still watching if it's the WWE?
this! If it’s all rigged, why watch?

Same BS with a fake moon landing and Sandy Hook was all actors conspiracy’s, way too many people involved to pull that off. Someone would talk. If the NFL was fixed. Someone would have talked.
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:48 PM   #261
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this! If it’s all rigged, why watch?

Same BS with a fake moon landing and Sandy Hook was all actors conspiracy’s, way too many people involved to pull that off. Someone would talk. If the NFL was fixed. Someone would have talked.
It wouldn't have to involve a lot of people. Just a ref and a dude in Vegas.
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:51 PM   #262
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It wouldn't have to involve a lot of people. Just a ref and a dude in Vegas.
huh? That’s individual corruption. It wouldn’t “all be rigged” That individual cheating for money could happen to any sport, country or business.

What we are talking about is the NFL dictating to refs how a games outcome should be decided. The NFL decides who wins.
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:57 PM   #263
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Why're you guys still watching if it's the WWE?
I used to say the exact same thing to other guys here all the time

Its incredibly easy to not believe a bit of it, who ever WANTED to believe it? I sure as hell didnt, and still dont... convenient excuses always suited me well enough

Maybe in some way, I didnt wanna feel like a sucker

But what we've been seeing the last 2-3 years has just been so blatant, week after week after week... should be enough to make any reasonably open mind at least wanna start asking some hard questions

Is it a game by game scripted, systemic thing, I dont believe that... but when a multi-billion dollar "entertainment" industry has a megamoney stake in seeing a certain market succeed?

Nothing is too far fetched when it comes to billions, they'll see to their interests

Yes Mahomes is still a league darling, and Goodells eyes are surely full of $ when he looks at him... but the LA market is even bigger than our phenom, in the leagues eyes

How else did an unbiased all star ref crew screw up so bad?
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:03 PM   #264
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It wouldn't have to involve a lot of people. Just a ref and a dude in Vegas.
I have no clue about that. However, what I am saying is simple. The NFL has a HUGE stake in the Rams and the Chargers and their new multi-billion dollar stadium. In order to build a fan base (at least for the Rams) they are willing to over-hype, and over-sell the public in Los Angeles in order to insure that the stadium is built and full for the near-term future.

History doesn't lie and it nearly always repeats itself. The Rams WILL fail in LA. The Chargers WILL fail in LA. It's not "if" but "when". The NFL wants to make damned sure that it doesn't happen for at least a decade AFTER the new stadium is completed. 4+ Billion bucks is a rather large investment in a facility to sit empty a few years after being built.......

Again - last nights' "spectacle" was about building a fan base - and nothing more.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:05 PM   #265
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Why're you guys still watching if it's the WWE?
Because this team is good enough to overcome the fix - they just didn't last night. Were it not for a dropped gift INT or Mahomes getting hit as he released the ball on that last drive, they would have won anyway, despite the best efforts of the ref$ and the wishes of the league.

Two losses by three points, both on the road, against big market league darlings. Both could have easily gone the other way.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:23 PM   #266
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I'm not sure what you were watching. The Chargers had twice as many penalties. Chargers had 14 penalties for 120yds. Donks had 7 for 43yds.

Keenum raising his performance isn't exactly an indication of a fixed game either.
End of the game, when it was being decided. Never mind, you are just being stubborn.

Oh by the way, Santa Claus is not real.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:24 PM   #267
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I have no clue about that. However, what I am saying is simple. The NFL has a HUGE stake in the Rams and the Chargers and their new multi-billion dollar stadium. In order to build a fan base (at least for the Rams) they are willing to over-hype, and over-sell the public in Los Angeles in order to insure that the stadium is built and full for the near-term future.

History doesn't lie and it nearly always repeats itself. The Rams WILL fail in LA. The Chargers WILL fail in LA. It's not "if" but "when". The NFL wants to make damned sure that it doesn't happen for at least a decade AFTER the new stadium is completed. 4+ Billion bucks is a rather large investment in a facility to sit empty a few years after being built.......

Again - last nights' "spectacle" was about building a fan base - and nothing more.
Why does the NFL give two ****s about the investment in the stadium? The NFL isn’t paying for any of it.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:27 PM   #268
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this! If it’s all rigged, why watch?

Same BS with a fake moon landing and Sandy Hook was all actors conspiracy’s, way too many people involved to pull that off. Someone would talk. If the NFL was fixed. Someone would have talked.
This is a red herring rebuttal...when someone points out what happened last night...you try to lump it in to moon landings and Sandy hook.

These are not related...and the people pointing it out are not the same.

That is a weak-ass attempt at discrediting by false association...

People have talked...and there have been books written. NFL vets its refs...it's why you see so much nepotism.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:27 PM   #269
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Well I do think they officiate other teams differently than us.
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Why're you guys still watching if it's the WWE?
Entertainment.
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