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milkman · 01-24-2010, 05:22 PM

....and nothing that Peyton Manning does will ever change that.

Garcia Bronco · 01-25-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Peyton is getting up there too, he may be one of the most technically proficient QBs in league history and with what he has done with the likes of Collie and Garcon, well that is now speaking volumes to his carrying a team and rising up those around him.

Right, after the League has changed the rules to make him successful. The reality is that Manning doesn't play under the game conditions that Elway, Montana played under. And they didn't play under the same rules Bradshaw and Unitis played under and so on. I have come to the conclusion that you can't compare them anymore from a stats perspective.

Cannibal · 01-25-2010, 10:51 AM

Montana was more clutch when it counted.

Garcia Bronco · 01-25-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KCbroncoHATER

Eldonk wasn't even as good as Bradshaw.

He was double as good as Bradshaw.

Crush · 01-25-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

After John Elway. Say it loud. Horseface is the GOAT.

Montana destroyed Horseface 55-10 in Super Bowl XXIV. Montana is the GOAT.

dallaschiefsfan · 01-25-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

Montana
elway
Brady
Manning

Dude...where in the hell is Staubach on this list? He was absolutely amazing considering he lost 5 years of his NFL career while serving in the Navy. Plus he pretty much lost another two years due to Landry keeping Morton as the starter. If Staubach had come out like a typical college athlete, this whole conversation would be about whether Montana or Staubach was the greatest.

KCbroncoHATER · 01-25-2010, 05:14 PM

He was double as good as Bradshaw.

Now if he only had the wins to back it up ...

Garcia Bronco · 01-25-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Crunch

Montana destroyed Horseface 55-10 in Super Bowl XXIV. Montana is the GOAT.

That was a team effort.

Nightfyre · 01-25-2010, 05:20 PM

My top 5 list, based on who I have seen:

1) Manning
2) Montana
3) Marino
4) Brady
5) Elway

Manning takes the cake for me simply because he is the best individual quarterback. He's got a cannon, accurate, and one of the best readers of defense in the game.

Montana had great intangibles and was extraordinarily accurate.

Marino had a lightning release, great accuracy and suffered through one of the worst organizations in the nfl.

Brady obviously, a system qb, but also great intangibles and accuracy.

Elway... Well. **** him.
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dallaschiefsfan · 01-25-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

My top 5 list, based on who I have seen:

1) Manning
2) Montana
3) Marino
4) Brady
5) Elway

Manning takes the cake for me simply because he is the best individual quarterback. He's got a cannon, accurate, and one of the best readers of defense in the game.

Montana had great intangibles and was extraordinarily accurate.

Marino had a lightning release, great accuracy and suffered through one of the worst organizations in the nfl.

Brady obviously, a system qb, but also great intangibles and accuracy.

Elway... Well. **** him.
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Your list along with the other guys' list includes nothing before the 80's. I'm sorry...but any list that doesn't at least struggle with putting Staubach, Bradshaw, etc. on their list isn't even trying. Brady? I'm pretty sure there's at least a double-digit list of QB's in NFL history that should be in front of him. Hell, I'd put Favre in front of him and Favre isn't top 5.

Regardless of how good Manning has been, I just don't think you can discuss him as seriously top 5 until his carreer is over. If he goes down next year w/ a carreer ending injury, he'll just be a more-talented Danny White w/ a Superbowl win under his belt. We so easily forget how quickly people forget players when they leave the game early or fail to last.

I could remember when people were talking about Terrel Davis as if he were going to recognized as the best ever running back. Everyone speaks in hyperbole about current players...but it all means nothing until they've been out of the game a few years so that everyone can take a breath and objectively evaluate.

dallaschiefsfan · 01-25-2010, 05:54 PM

And by the way...unless someone has already said this, Manning isn't even the best COLTS QB ever....YET. That would be Johnny Unitas.

Hootie · 01-25-2010, 05:54 PM

see this is why it's hard for me to take old people seriously when they talk about sports...

dallaschiefsfan · 01-25-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

see this is why it's hard for me to take old people seriously when they talk about sports...

You're referring to me?

vailpass · 01-25-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

see this is why it's hard for me to take old people seriously when they talk about sports...

Why? Because they know what they are talking about?

dallaschiefsfan · 01-25-2010, 06:06 PM

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Why? Because they know what they are talking about?

Apparently. Dude doesn't even know my age...which I'm 38. If that's old...well...I guess he has a point.

Hootie · 01-25-2010, 06:08 PM

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Apparently. Dude doesn't even know my age...which I'm 38. If that's old...well...I guess he has a point.

yet you're referencing Unitas like you witnessed his body of work?

Ridiculous.

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